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went to the Staunton Va. auction yesterday. I have always bought my animals locally, but wanted to see what was selling.
Everything I saw sell was heifers and cows.

My first impression, very few buyers. I stayed about 2 1/2 hours and 90% of everything sold went to one of two people.

Prices seemed low to me. Unless noted otherwise, all were black.

3 weight's, only a few1.93 - 2.45
4weights, 2.20-2.28
5 weight 2.29-242
6 weight 2.23-2.25
7 weight 2.23-2.26

One angus with pinkeye so bad it looked like its eye was going to pop out 1.52

A nice 845# Highland cow 1.50

Killer cows1.18
Thin cows, one so weak it could barely stand, .60 - .90 The cows looked so abused they were hard to look at.

One 1100# Hereford 1.10

I didn't see all the sale, but that was my take away.
 
Sounds too, like you may only have seen the slaughter cows/bulls part. Some sales save the 'good stuff' till last to keep bidders from leaving early. (Livingston Tx always ran the junk thru first, including sheep, goats and equines)
No, they sold a lots of heifers before they started the cows
 
went to the Staunton Va. auction yesterday. I have always bought my animals locally, but wanted to see what was selling.
Everything I saw sell was heifers and cows.

My first impression, very few buyers. I stayed about 2 1/2 hours and 90% of everything sold went to one of two people.

Prices seemed low to me. Unless noted otherwise, all were black.

3 weight's, only a few1.93 - 2.45
4weights, 2.20-2.28
5 weight 2.29-242
6 weight 2.23-2.25
7 weight 2.23-2.26

One angus with pinkeye so bad it looked like its eye was going to pop out 1.52

A nice 845# Highland cow 1.50

Killer cows1.18
Thin cows, one so weak it could barely stand, .60 - .90 The cows looked so abused they were hard to look at.

One 1100# Hereford 1.10

I didn't see all the sale, but that was my take away.
That's about what i have been seeing in this area this week. Kill cows are cheaper because they are getting plenty of them.
I have never seen a nice Highland cow but thats way higher than she would have brought here.
 
If all you saw @GreyGus was heifers then killer/cull cows, then you got there after all the steers were sold. The sale is supposed to start at 2... if they do not have a huge number of farmers bringing in stuff and then they will unload and start the sale whenever the last truck/trailer is unloaded.
The yard was run for 50+ years by the Hewitt family and recently sold a couple years ago. Brothers in their 90's, kids had enough after working it since they were teens until it sold... It is run differently now than it was. People that bought it, ship alot of cattle west and do things more by the trailer/pot load now. One of the reasons there are not alot of buyers, because they often outbid many of the ones that used to come and therefore buy the majority of the animals. Many animals are brought in on Thursdays before the sale.

Good bad or indifferent.....just different now.

Cattle prices are off some... have been for about a month or more. Dry/drought conditions have had many selling early so there are not the numbers being sold for the "fall run" of cattle here. Plus, when the prices were so high earlier this year, many farmers with an ounce of sense in their head sold then. We did, sold every steer on the place instead of holding some like we do to run on pasture.... we put out 30 heifers where we would have run steers at one place... steers were worth too much at the sale to hold them.

Those heifer prices were about what they have been bringing for awhile. We figure they are going to run $.50 to $1.00 less than steers and they are. In fact, the heifer prices here are holding a little better than I thought they would by now.

We sold steers in the 5 wts for as much as 3.30 6-8 weeks ago... they are lucky if they hit 3.00 now. A few will, but there are also order buyers that have to have "paper" on some of what they are shipping and so sometimes the prices will be higher and it does not go to the individual farmer, but they are run through the sale after they have been bought once, but to someone that has put together a group... there are lots of things that go on.... Not illegal but ways for them to make more money for the owners of larger groups. Bull calves/feeders, can be found for under 2.00 that you would not have found anywhere in May or June.

Cull cows had been holding... they have been in the 1.20's for several weeks. Real good ones I have seen bring as much as 1.50... the kill order buyers know exactly what a cow will kill at and have been doing it for a long time. But they are off a little too from a few weeks ago... Before Labor day they were as much as .20 higher all around.

Sale yard does not control the condition of cows that come in... they legally have to walk off the trailer... and some will be put in the "slow pen" and they will be thin, weak, bad feet, can't walk etc and so on... and they bring less...

Pinkeye has been a problem for some and we have had a bout of it at just one place... so not surprised at one with a popeye. If a decent heifer, we will keep them for a replacement because it is a long way from the working end... They get "killed" at the sale barn as a feeder heifer... as you saw.

That's way more than the highland usually brings... either someone knew she was going to be there and wanted her... or she was in very good body shape and someone wanted hamburger...

Normally, if they have any "go back to farm" animals, they sell first... "head cows"... there aren't that many there and they are advertised normally. Now they usually have a bred cow or herd dispersal type sale... On Tuesdays as that is their slow day... and they normally sell just cull stuff now on Tues....so they have their special sales on Tues since the help is already there... There is a special bred cow sale this Tuesday 9/17... at 6 p.m. And they do start on time...

See the notation by @greybeard ... you can get the results of the sale every week through the VDACS... they have a guy there at the sale recording the overall prices for averages.
Staunton Union also is now associated with DVAuctions...

There are 2 stockyards in Harrisonburg... Rockingham Livestock Sales; Thursday sales.....they do beef and dairy, feeders and such. Special graded sales.

Shenandoah Valley Livestock Sales......Wed is baby calves and cull cows and Sat is sheep, goats, pigs, calves and feeder calves and cows/ bulls etc.... It is the only place to take sheep and goats now and they get alot of buyers. They also do special sales all the time... Beef cows... breds and c/cf pairs the 2nd Wed... and Dairy replacements the 4th Wed... and a special "EXOTIC" sale on the 4th Thursday... get alot of the "odd ball" cattle like Highlands, Belted galloways, "mini" cattle breeds, saw a full blood GYR heifer there one time... she was so different and "ugly" as to be actually really neat looking... she brought over 4,000....

Most all of them have a webpage or on FB or something...
 
If all you saw @GreyGus was heifers then killer/cull cows, then you got there after all the steers were sold. The sale is supposed to start at 2... if they do not have a huge number of farmers bringing in stuff and then they will unload and start the sale whenever the last truck/trailer is unloaded.
The yard was run for 50+ years by the Hewitt family and recently sold a couple years ago. Brothers in their 90's, kids had enough after working it since they were teens until it sold... It is run differently now than it was. People that bought it, ship alot of cattle west and do things more by the trailer/pot load now. One of the reasons there are not alot of buyers, because they often outbid many of the ones that used to come and therefore buy the majority of the animals. Many animals are brought in on Thursdays before the sale.

Good bad or indifferent.....just different now.

Cattle prices are off some... have been for about a month or more. Dry/drought conditions have had many selling early so there are not the numbers being sold for the "fall run" of cattle here. Plus, when the prices were so high earlier this year, many farmers with an ounce of sense in their head sold then. We did, sold every steer on the place instead of holding some like we do to run on pasture.... we put out 30 heifers where we would have run steers at one place... steers were worth too much at the sale to hold them.

Those heifer prices were about what they have been bringing for awhile. We figure they are going to run $.50 to $1.00 less than steers and they are. In fact, the heifer prices here are holding a little better than I thought they would by now.

We sold steers in the 5 wts for as much as 3.30 6-8 weeks ago... they are lucky if they hit 3.00 now. A few will, but there are also order buyers that have to have "paper" on some of what they are shipping and so sometimes the prices will be higher and it does not go to the individual farmer, but they are run through the sale after they have been bought once, but to someone that has put together a group... there are lots of things that go on.... Not illegal but ways for them to make more money for the owners of larger groups. Bull calves/feeders, can be found for under 2.00 that you would not have found anywhere in May or June.

Cull cows had been holding... they have been in the 1.20's for several weeks. Real good ones I have seen bring as much as 1.50... the kill order buyers know exactly what a cow will kill at and have been doing it for a long time. But they are off a little too from a few weeks ago... Before Labor day they were as much as .20 higher all around.

Sale yard does not control the condition of cows that come in... they legally have to walk off the trailer... and some will be put in the "slow pen" and they will be thin, weak, bad feet, can't walk etc and so on... and they bring less...

Pinkeye has been a problem for some and we have had a bout of it at just one place... so not surprised at one with a popeye. If a decent heifer, we will keep them for a replacement because it is a long way from the working end... They get "killed" at the sale barn as a feeder heifer... as you saw.

That's way more than the highland usually brings... either someone knew she was going to be there and wanted her... or she was in very good body shape and someone wanted hamburger...

Normally, if they have any "go back to farm" animals, they sell first... "head cows"... there aren't that many there and they are advertised normally. Now they usually have a bred cow or herd dispersal type sale... On Tuesdays as that is their slow day... and they normally sell just cull stuff now on Tues....so they have their special sales on Tues since the help is already there... There is a special bred cow sale this Tuesday 9/17... at 6 p.m. And they do start on time...

See the notation by @greybeard ... you can get the results of the sale every week through the VDACS... they have a guy there at the sale recording the overall prices for averages.
Staunton Union also is now associated with DVAuctions...

There are 2 stockyards in Harrisonburg... Rockingham Livestock Sales; Thursday sales.....they do beef and dairy, feeders and such. Special graded sales.

Shenandoah Valley Livestock Sales......Wed is baby calves and cull cows and Sat is sheep, goats, pigs, calves and feeder calves and cows/ bulls etc.... It is the only place to take sheep and goats now and they get alot of buyers. They also do special sales all the time... Beef cows... breds and c/cf pairs the 2nd Wed... and Dairy replacements the 4th Wed... and a special "EXOTIC" sale on the 4th Thursday... get alot of the "odd ball" cattle like Highlands, Belted galloways, "mini" cattle breeds, saw a full blood GYR heifer there one time... she was so different and "ugly" as to be actually really neat looking... she brought over 4,000....

Most all of them have a webpage or on FB or something...
Jan,
Enjoyed your informative post. I will probably be selling calves in February. Which of the livestock markets would you recommend as the best to sell small numbers, (5-6) calves?
 
Lots of variables between now and then... What kind are they? Steers? Heifers? What weights will they be?
IF things stay the same as they are now... except for the time of year.....
March/April would more likely be better because of people wanting grass cattle... too little hay around, for someone to get some and then to have to feed hay for a month or 2 before turnout.
A LOT will depend on several things... FIRST..... what the election does... shouldn't... but it always does affect things.
What the economy is doing... prices/wages/job availability. If Trump gets in, there will fewer "giveaway" type programs... and the economy will start to slow as we try to get a handle on the runaway inflation. If she gets in, they will be wanting to give away everything, including the kitchen sink... to all the poor suffering unfortunates... and take it from the hardworking taxpayer... and the inflation is going to continue to climb until our dollar is not worth much and the world goes off the "dollar" standard.. There are some countries already refusing to trade in dollars.... It will get worse.
If we don't get into a war with Russia, China, Iran.....

If the climate change nuts get in there, they will continue to push for slowing/stopping the consumption of meat... affecting the prices some... But the economy is going to take care of that if beef continues to get higher and higher in the store... and inflation starts to destroy our very foundation.

If we get adequate moisture this winter to start to get our ground water reservoir built up, so a good pasture to start, prices should stay up more.
If the corn crop winds up being better than they forecast so prices are cheaper......calves will stay up better...
Depends on how many heifers are going to be retained for replacements....and how many will be slated for the feedlots.

If they are a group of all steers, and black, and average somewhere in the 4-550 wt range, Staunton is as good as any place... Gotta have at least 4-5 in a group to get a better price normally. Black white face with not much white do good there... uniform calves. If they look like they have too much hereford influence it will hurt them.
If they have any dairy influence, then Shen Valley on Saturday... there are buyers there that feed out dairy and dairy beef crosses... Staunton is a no-no for anything dairy now.
Herefords take a beating, but will get hurt less in Shen Valley.

So, what do you have???? For starters....
 
3 heifer calves and 3 bull calves. Yes I know they should be steers, but they're not. I will get it right next spring. All black angus from a registered bull I lease and purebred cows. 5 of the 6 are probably in the 400 to 450 range. One bull calf came 7 weeks after the others so he is noticeably smaller. ( fourth calf from the left). I may keep one of the heifers to increase the herd to 7, which is what I think my small farm can sustain.
 

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3 heifer calves and 3 bull calves. Yes I know they should be steers, but they're not. I will get it right next spring. All black angus from a registered bull I lease and purebred cows. 5 of the 6 are probably in the 400 to 450 range. One bull calf came 7 weeks after the others so he is noticeably smaller. ( fourth calf from the left). I may keep one of the heifers to increase the herd to 7, which is what I think my small farm can sustain.

I am not Jan but nice solid black calves like that I would take to Radiant or Lynchburg depending on where in central VA you are. They tend to be the best sales for those type cattle. JMO
 

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