Was this self defense?
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callmefence
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He was defending his property.
The dead man was uninvited by the property owner. Before there was a gun involved. He refused to leave . At that point he became a trespasser. When he threatened and reached for the gun he became a threat. What he should have done was leave and have a report filed for the ex-wife violating a court order.
Buck Randall
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From what?
He could have gone in the house and called law enforcement. There would have been no property damage or loss of life.
Son of Butch
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Defending it from what?
Wrong.
The step-father invited him to come to his property to do the exchange when he signed the family court agreement.
callmefence
Keyboard cowboy
Wrong. The step father clearly said get of my property. Before he went in to get the gun.
HDRider
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If I tell you to leave my property and you do not I have the right to shoot you - Law according to a fence post
Funny how hard many try to get out of jury duty, except on the internet
Funny how hard many try to get out of jury duty, except on the internet
callmefence
Keyboard cowboy
You are not required to wait for law enforcement to protect your private property. At least not in Texas.
If a situation escalates to needing deadly force. ( Someone threatens to kill you and trying to take your weapon) the castle doctrine kicks in. You are not required to retreat.
callmefence
Keyboard cowboy
Son of Butch
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Tell it to the judge.
The step-father can and will be tried for murder as it should be.
I trust the jury system to do the right thing.
HDRider
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I can't help your blindness and lack of situational awareness.Ain't you one to talk.
At least your doing something besides crying
Choot 'em fence, choot 'em fore he gets away
callmefence
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HDRider
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Choot, fire, aim - as dumb as a fence post
callmefence
Keyboard cowboy
Go ahead with your typical pattern of name calling
. From the internet.
HDRider
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I learned it from a fence postGo ahead with your typical pattern of name calling
Son of Butch
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IF it can be proven the step-father planned the murder (so the mother could get full custody) he deserves the death penalty.
But since that does not appear to be the case, I'm good with an 18 year prison sentence and out in 12 on good behavior/parole.
But since that does not appear to be the case, I'm good with an 18 year prison sentence and out in 12 on good behavior/parole.
callmefence
Keyboard cowboy
I'm sure they'll check with you Butch.
So far it doesn't seem hes even been arrested.
MurraysMutts
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These custody issues are a very sensitive thing to deal with.
While I agree the father should've walked away and got with his attorney, he had a very good chance of full custody.
It's all more complicated than that.
This was a case of who's junk was bigger than the others. They should BOTH have put the child's welfare wayyyy ahead of that!!
Either MAN could've prevented this situation rather easily. Mistakes were made on both men's part.
While I agree the father should've walked away and got with his attorney, he had a very good chance of full custody.
It's all more complicated than that.
This was a case of who's junk was bigger than the others. They should BOTH have put the child's welfare wayyyy ahead of that!!
Either MAN could've prevented this situation rather easily. Mistakes were made on both men's part.
callmefence
Keyboard cowboy
I'm glad you've found something that listens to you.
Hard to call this one from a 10 second video. Without knowing any of the involved or the history behind this it's hard to say who's right or wrong. It does look like the shooter escalated the situation and I believe Texas has a taunting law. You aren't supposed to escalate a situation so you can kill someone and claim self defense.
BFE
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It's best that all exchanges occur on neutral public ground. Believe me I know from experience. Not like this case but it's a lot easier to be shady on your own turf.
