Vaccines....

[Ramblin Rose]

Ok I'm sure this has been brought up numerous times on here and I apologize for being too lazy to go back and research it but my question is with all the different vaccines on the market it's a bit overwhelming to decide what's necessary and what's not so just wanted to get some other people's method to vaccination of heifers and also what they use for their herd on a yearly basis. Thanks in advance for the replies.

 

[Son of Butch]

You could start here...
https://cattletoday.com/forum/viewtopic ... 7&t=107414

 

[Ramblin Rose]

I knew there were probably multiple topics on this but I'm not that computer savvy ha

 

[Bigfoot]

Ok I'm sure this has been brought up numerous times on here and I apologize for being too lazy to go back and research it but my question is with all the different vaccines on the market it's a bit overwhelming to decide what's necessary and what's not so just wanted to get some other people's method to vaccination of heifers and also what they use for their herd on a yearly basis. Thanks in advance for the replies.

The info here is great. You might want to stop by a large animal clinic, and see what they recommend. I'd probably buy the first few rounds from them, and get the routine down. then I might find a cheaper supplier.

 

[Dave]

You should realize you can and will get multiple answer just based on the class of cattle you want to vaccinate and your location.

 

[SIMMGAL]

Ok I'm sure this has been brought up numerous times on here and I apologize for being too lazy to go back and research it but my question is with all the different vaccines on the market it's a bit overwhelming to decide what's necessary and what's not so just wanted to get some other people's method to vaccination of heifers and also what they use for their herd on a yearly basis. Thanks in advance for the replies.

The info here is great. You might want to stop by a large animal clinic, and see what they recommend. I'd probably buy the first few rounds from them, and get the routine down. then I might find a cheaper supplier.

X2 Asking a vet what they recommend for your area and cattle would be a good place to start!

 

[TCRanch]

I'm assuming these heifers are already weaned but not bred? When our heifers are pelvic measured & get their BANGS our vet administers Express 5 VL5 mod live. Annual vaccinations are Vira Shield, Pinkeye & Ivermectin for cows, retained heifers & bulls - they get wormed twice a year. 1st shots for heifer calves are Ultrabac, Pinkeye, Ivermectin pour-on and Ultrabac, Triangle 4 + PH K and Lutalyse when they're weaned. Bull calves get Covexin 8 when we band day 1 or 2, same shots as the heifers when we work them/wean at appx 3 & 6 months (except for the Lute ). All based on our vets recommendation - so I would ask your vet what specific vaccinations you need for your herd based on geography, whether it's a closed herd, etc.

 

[Son of Butch]

Bull calves get same (except for the Lute )

Ya cheapskate

 

[Dave]

I missed the heifers when I read the question. The last 4 years I bought about 60 heifers about this time each year. They were about a year old give or take a month or two. On arrival home they got Ultra Bac 8, Enforce 3, One Shot, lute and Imovec plus. Three or four weeks later they got a booster for the Ultra Bac 8, Bova Shield Gold, and another shot of Imovec. In May they got a a pinkeye vaccine and long range wormer (last year).

 

[TCRanch]

Bull calves get same (except for the Lute )

Ya cheapskate

Not according to my husband :banana:
What would happen if I did give a steer a shot of Lute?

 

[Ramblin Rose]

Yes my wife and I along with our little girl are just starting our own herd and decided to start with a few heifers, I've been around cattle growing up quite a bit but everyone I was around never really did any vaccinations other than ivomec and maybe some antibiotics if something was going wrong, I believe vaccines are necessary it's just my knowledge is limited. I'll start with the vet and his recommendations but a few of the posts are already giving me an idea of what I wanted to know. Thanks again

 

[wbvs58]

I think it would be helpfull for all if you named the diseases for which you are giving these presumably polyvalent vaccines. I imagine different companies would produce the same or similar vaccine under a different name and someone may double up by taking the recommendation from more than one person. Ivomec for example is not a vaccine. I for one have no idea what you people vaccinate for other than you give a lot, yes your conditions are different to ours and your winters more extreme and livestock more intensely managed. We do seem to have much fewer problems also.

Can you tell me which of your vaccines cover tetanus and blackleg and the likes?

Ken

 

[TCRanch]

Vira Shield 6 + VL5 is for IBR, BVD Types I and II, PI3, BRSV, Vibrio and 5 strains of Lepto.

Piliguard Pinkeye TriView, obviously for Pinkeye but this is why geography is important. Kansas is very windy, Pinkeye is a common problem.

Ultrabac 7/Somubac is a 7-way blackleg plus somnus for prevention of Clostridium chauvoei, septicum, novyi, sordellii, perfringens Types C & D plus Haemophilus somnus infection

Triangle 4 + PH-K for IBR, BVD, PI3, BRSV and Mannheimia haemolytica.

Covexin 8, also a 7 way blackleg but includes red water & specifically tetanus.

Lutalyse - because we don't want any "oops" babies.

And all our cattle, bulls & retained heifers have magnets.

 

[wbvs58]

Thanks for that TC, I'll have to print it out and keep it handy so I can refer to it.

Basically we just use the clostridial vaccine and more diligent will use the one combined with Lepto. I use a killed BVD as that is the only one we are allowed here on heifers prior to going in calf (2shots) and then yearly.

Bulls get Vibrio prior to sale and I blood them just after weaning with trivalent tick fever vaccine in case a buyer wants to take them down on the coast in tick country.

Ken

 

[TCRanch]

Thanks for that TC, I'll have to print it out and keep it handy so I can refer to it.

Basically we just use the clostridial vaccine and more diligent will use the one combined with Lepto. I use a killed BVD as that is the only one we are allowed here on heifers prior to going in calf (2shots) and then yearly.

Bulls get Vibrio prior to sale and I blood them just after weaning with trivalent tick fever vaccine in case a buyer wants to take them down on the coast in tick country.

Ken

Did a search on the Trivalent tick fever vaccine & it appears it's not in the U.S. Is tick fever the same or similar to anaplasmosis? I wish there was a vaccine for that but that's why we feed mineral with CTC in it (now subject to the VFD).

 

[wbvs58]

TC, it is a specialist vaccine here produced by a government department. It contains Babesia bovis and bigemina and Anaplasma marginale. It is reasonably priced and you order as needed and is express freighted to you and you have to use it immediately. If you use it on calves under 12mths there is virtually no chance of reaction. Older cattle have to be monitored and if off colour and high temp then treated as for tick fever, Imazol will treat all 3.

TC we have a tick line here, basically Northern Australia and the East coast to about half way down the continent and below the mountain range. Cattle born in the tick area will never need vaccinating, they grow up with ticks on them and with maternal antibodies and the fact that the organism does not seem to affect the young so much they develop natural immunity. Cattle tick used to be a big problem with ticks developing resistance to dips but with the use of tick resistant breeds and the likes of Ivomec and Cydectin and some of the synthetic pyrethroids it is not the problem it used to be but as you can see it is advantageous to maintain a light tick infestation so all newborn animals get exposed naturally to the organisms they carry. If you want to bring cattle from the coast up to our area they must go through a clearing dip at the foot of the range. Where the vaccine is used is to protect cattle such as bulls that are bought in tick free area to travel into the tick areas. Having mine already vaccinated makes them more attractive to these buyers. The vaccine is basically just used for these situations.

Ken

 

[TCRanch]

Very interesting, thanks for the info.