kenny thomas
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Notice that Jeanne is the only original poster still active.
I saw that.Notice that Jeanne is the only original poster still active.
Having small eyes, no eye ball formed in the socket or other eye defects are some of the rarer birth defects that calves or other mammals have when they are exposed to toxins which cause the now common birth defects like underbite during development in the womb. In human mothers, the highly used insecticide, imidacloprid, goes directly across the placenta and into the fetus according to a new study. Interestingly, 99% of the women tested, tested positive for imidacoprid exposure. It is likely that imidacloprid goes across the placenta in other exposed pregnant mammals. Underbite on a calf is not caused by the genetics of the parents. It is caused by toxin exposure to the calf as a fetus. If a cow has a calf with an underbite, it is not the cow's or the bull's fault. It is because the air the cow breaths, the foliage/hay/grain she eats and/or the water she drinks while carrying her fetus contains toxins that disrupt bone growth. Imidacloprid is a highly used toxin that does.Jeanne, I agree too. The heifer I was talking about now has a heifer calf. I should probably have paid a little more attention to those teeth sticking out when she was young. I had completely forgotten. I did check the calf out and her bite looks ok. She is a really nice heifer calf, except she seems to have shallow eyes that want to water some. I think this also is a defect and shouldn't be used for breeding.
Rod
The high prevalence of underbite in calves began in spring of 1995, the year after imidacloprid began being highly used in 1994, so not at all surprising that calves were being born with underbite 18 years ago and not surprising that this is an 18 year old thread. If imidacloprid were banned from use, it would be a NA thread - wouldn't that be great!and.....
1 to mention that if you used Corriente cattle you would cut lighting cost over 90%.
I was going to ask for documentation. But it's a meaningless stat because humans tested would be mainly people known to have been in contact with insecticide spills or other mishaps. From 1999-2018 imidacloprid was the most widely used insecticide and is the most popular seed treatment insecticide in the world. Marketed under many names, Marathon is one I have used.99% of the women tested, tested positive for imidacloprid exposure.
The rest all developed underbite and went on to the great dentistry in the sky????Notice that Jeanne is the only original poster still active.
I may have said that incorrectly. It said 99% of women tested positive to exposure to neonicotinoids, including imidacloprid.I was going to ask for documentation. But it's a meaningless stat because humans tested would be mainly people known to have been in contact with insecticide spills or other mishaps. From 1999-2018 imidacloprid was the most widely used insecticide and is the most popular seed treatment insecticide in the world. Marketed under many names, Marathon is one I have used.
Interestingly testing has shown contamination to be more prevalent in urban areas than rural areas. (Most likely runoff from parks and lawns rather than from cropland)
February 2018 European Union restricted its use due to effects on bees.
May 2019 EPA revoked approval for a number of products containing imidacloprid.
July 2022 Massachusetts banned its use in commercial products while Connecticut, Maryland and Vermont have restricted its use.
19% of rivers and streams tested in California exceeded EPA safety thresholds for aquatic invertebrates, so I expect some sort of regulation will one day be coming from the land of fruits and nuts.
I have been on here about 5 months longer than you. MWJ has been here about a week longer than me. There may be others if we searched for them. They first started making a person register the first of 2004. Actually I had been here about 2 years before that. I didn't trust it when they started making people register. Took me until July that year to register.See there. I'm not the only oldie-goldie.
never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups!!!!!!!
Probably DDT the cause of those underbites in those days GB. We will have to get Judy's opinion on that one.That could be taken either of 2 ways. Large groups of stupid people on a soapbox or an individual/small group of stupid ones with a large audience (group).
Remember the CT member (under several different usernames and genders) that that had his/her fetish about an element and for several years here at CT railed on and on about it being the devil incarnate and was gonna be the end of us all and decimate the world cattle market?
It was Sulphur/Sulfur.
I've know several people with an underbite. Didn't seem to bother their eating or chewing none. Thank Gawd no one demanded that they be neutered so they couldn't reproduce and bring ruin upon the world's future population..
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