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Got the three heifers ultrasounded today. one was great, one was lousey and one was good. I think they are anyway.
Don't know what they should be at 12 months being on pasture with the cows.
P1 3/4 AR 1/4 GV REA 10.8, BF .30, IMF 5.36
P4 3/4 AR 1/4 HP REA 7.09, BF .19, IMF 3.26
P6 1/2 HP 1/2 AN REA 10.66, BF .31, IMF 3.70

For those that know about this stuff, is that good, bad, or ugly?

dun
 
ollie":3bv6aeir said:
What are the weights?

We didn;t weight them today. But based on previous years and their weaning weights, I would guess P1 around 800, P4 around 725 and P6 around 650.

dun
 
p1 and p6 are good ones in my book. I can do without p4. Was she tighter gutted.
 
P4 is eleven months and from a cow that we had high hopes for. Her mother is the abandoner that went to the sale barn today. she's alwasy been a long skinny thing. With the right bull maybe she'll do the job. She's sort of a sentimental favorite of the wifes.

dun
 
dun":1hqm8yg8 said:
P4 is eleven months and from a cow that we had high hopes for. Her mother is the abandoner that went to the sale barn today. she's alwasy been a long skinny thing. With the right bull maybe she'll do the job. She's sort of a sentimental favorite of the wifes.

dun
To me her lack of internal dimension shows up in her ultrasound rea per hundred weight and back fat.
 
P1 is in CAB territory (if she was black) . Are these grass heifers?
 
ollie":3fymsl7x said:
P1 is in CAB territory (if she was black) . Are these grass heifers?

At weaning they got a couple of pounds of grain a day while on pasture. After 4 weeks, they went back to straight pasture with the mature cows.

dun
 
Hasn't any one else ultrasounded their heifers? I'm curious how the P1 and P4 heifers stack up.

Thanks

dun
 
dun":2fj5gx6w said:
Hasn't any one else ultrasounded their heifers? I'm curious how the P1 and P4 heifers stack up.

Thanks

dun

OK, Dun, just for you I went back and dug up ultrasound data on six heifers we ran on wheat through the winter of '03. Data is adjusted.

#338 - IMF 4.70 - ribeye 9.7 - Ribfat .26 - Rump fat - .41
#302 - IMF 4.00 - ribeye 8.8 - Ribfat .19 - Rump fat - .29
#303 - IMF 4.97 - ribeye 9.7 - Ribfat .14 - Rump fat - .27
#367 - IMF 4.26 - ribeye 10.2 - Ribfat .21 - Rump fat - .31
#371 - IMF 3.59 - ribeye 10.5 - ribfat .12 - Rump fat - .21
#307 - IMF 3.68 - ribeye 9.2 - ribfat .19 - Rumpfat .29

Obviously, management will make a difference in ultrasound, but this is FYI. I have breeding info if anyone wants it.
 
Frankie":2m3ny4v1 said:
dun":2m3ny4v1 said:
Hasn't any one else ultrasounded their heifers? I'm curious how the P1 and P4 heifers stack up.

Thanks

dun

OK, Dun, just for you I went back and dug up ultrasound data on six heifers we ran on wheat through the winter of '03. Data is adjusted.

#338 - IMF 4.70 - ribeye 9.7 - Ribfat .26 - Rump fat - .41
#302 - IMF 4.00 - ribeye 8.8 - Ribfat .19 - Rump fat - .29
#303 - IMF 4.97 - ribeye 9.7 - Ribfat .14 - Rump fat - .27
#367 - IMF 4.26 - ribeye 10.2 - Ribfat .21 - Rump fat - .31
#371 - IMF 3.59 - ribeye 10.5 - ribfat .12 - Rump fat - .21
#307 - IMF 3.68 - ribeye 9.2 - ribfat .19 - Rumpfat .29

Obviously, management will make a difference in ultrasound, but this is FYI. I have breeding info if anyone wants it.

That's the kind of stuff I was hoping to see in a reply.
How old were the Heifers when they were ultrasounded?

dun
 
I've had some PMs asking about breeding, so I'll put it out here.

#338 - IMF 4.70 - ribeye 9.7 - Ribfat .26 - Rump fat - .41 - Right Time X GDAR Rito 596LT (ABS called him Pierre) This is the cow that I posted the picture of with her Dateline heifer

#302 - IMF 4.00 - ribeye 8.8 - Ribfat .19 - Rump fat - .29 - SAF 598 Bando 5175 X Krugerrand of Donamere 490

#303 - IMF 4.97 - ribeye 9.7 - Ribfat .14 - Rump fat - .27 - SAF 598 Bando 5175 X GDAR Traveler 044

#367 - IMF 4.26 - ribeye 10.2 - Ribfat .21 - Rump fat - .31 - Ankonian Elixir 100/GT Maximum

#371 - IMF 3.59 - ribeye 10.5 - ribfat .12 - Rump fat - .21 - Krugerrand of Donamere 490 X N Bar Emulation EXT

#307 - IMF 3.68 - ribeye 9.2 - ribfat .19 - Rumpfat .29 - Bon View New Design 878 X Sitz Traveler 8180

Dun, the heifers were born Jan/Feb and the ultrasound was done in March. Their weight ranged from 810 lbs. for the youngest (307) to 918 lbs. for the oldest (338). As I said, they were running on wheat pasture & grass hay through the winter with some commercial heifers.
 
Frankie":1t6ake9o said:
Dun, the heifers were born Jan/Feb and the ultrasound was done in March. Their weight ranged from 810 lbs. for the youngest (307) to 918 lbs. for the oldest (338). As I said, they were running on wheat pasture & grass hay through the winter with some commercial heifers.

Thanks. These littel girls I did range from mid-March to April 1 for the littlest one. Just wanted to make sure I was comparing apples to apples.

dun
 
dun":2iea3wqq said:
Frankie":2iea3wqq said:
Dun, the heifers were born Jan/Feb and the ultrasound was done in March. Their weight ranged from 810 lbs. for the youngest (307) to 918 lbs. for the oldest (338). As I said, they were running on wheat pasture & grass hay through the winter with some commercial heifers.

Thanks. These littel girls I did range from mid-March to April 1 for the littlest one. Just wanted to make sure I was comparing apples to apples.

dun

Well, if you're comparing apples to apples, you're comparing Granny Smiths to Red Delicious. The only way you should compare animals is within a contemporary group that's been managed the same. They might be good as a reference, though. I wish other people had posted data, too.
 
dun":3si9wtsj said:
Got the three heifers ultrasounded today. one was great, one was lousey and one was good. I think they are anyway.
Don't know what they should be at 12 months being on pasture with the cows.
P1 3/4 AR 1/4 GV REA 10.8, BF .30, IMF 5.36
P4 3/4 AR 1/4 HP REA 7.09, BF .19, IMF 3.26
P6 1/2 HP 1/2 AN REA 10.66, BF .31, IMF 3.70

For those that know about this stuff, is that good, bad, or ugly?

dun

Dun,

I think the "10's" are right in line with the market, and are what feedlots are looking for in steers. Despite the 12's. 13's, 14's and 15's being advertised in herd sires. Of course those big numbers "may" increase the size of their offsprings REA and "maybe" bring them in up the necessary zone. The 7, 8's and 9's are perfectly normal for heifers. Unless you are wanting to concentrate on REA characteristics and other specific genetic carcass traits for seedstock purposes (so your bulls can pass this down to your customers) and/or you are breeding them specifically for beef production, I would not be too concerned.
 
Frankie":1g4wrzad said:
Well, if you're comparing apples to apples, you're comparing Granny Smiths to Red Delicious. The only way you should compare animals is within a contemporary group that's been managed the same. They might be good as a reference, though. I wish other people had posted data, too.

They're as contemporary group as we ever have. The differencees being obviously two different sires. Mature cow vs heifer, but that shouldn;t affect the genetics of the carcass.
Unless you;'re referrring to yours and mine as being the two different apples.
As usual, I'm a bit unclear/confused.

dun
 
Howdy,
These hiefers were the last group I had ultrasounded. The group is mixed grass pasture, and the ultrasound was done 11/17/04. All items below are at the adjusted year rate. Pure bred black angus

#C02 - IMF 6.79 - Ribeye 13.1 - Ribfat .36 - Rump fat - .60 Weight - 1042
#C05 - IMF 5.75 - Ribeye 13.0 - Ribfat .39 - Rump fat - .50 Weight - 856
#C07 - IMF 4.09 - Ribeye 12.2 - Ribfat .24 - Rump fat - .51 Weight - 880
#C12 - IMF 9.39 - Ribeye 11.4 - Ribfat .41 - Rump fat - .50 Weight - 840
#C17 - IMF 5.07 - Ribeye 13.6 - Ribfat .33 - Rump fat - .51 Weight - 1010
#C21 - IMF 6.32 - Ribeye 10.7 - Ribfat .42 - Rump fat - .55 Weight - 934


#C02 - DOB 10/04/03 days at ultra 410
#C05 - DOB 10/17/03 days at ultra 397
#C07 - DOB 10/06/03 days at ultra 408
#C12 - DOB 11/14/03 days at ultra 369
#C17 - DOB 10/12/03 days at ultra 402
#C21 - DOB 10/07/03 days at ultra 407

They have all turned out fantastic and are all currently AI bred December 2004. Really great group. I'll get a picture up soon. :)
 
Unless your ultrasound date is wrong, those weight gains are pretty good!

Bez

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Howdy,
Here is some ultrasound data for some bulls I put through a "On the Farm Test" 120 day test with 4.28 Lbs ADG Ultrasound done 11/17/04. All items below are at the adjusted year rate. Pure bred black angus

#C01 - IMF 3.62 - Ribeye 14.6 - Ribfat .36 - Rump fat - .47 Weight - 1340
#C10 - IMF 3.45 - Ribeye 15.1 - Ribfat .32 - Rump fat - .38 Weight - 1325
#C15 - IMF 3.36 - Ribeye 17.8 - Ribfat .33 - Rump fat - .39 Weight - 1290
#C16 - IMF 3.22 - Ribeye 15.8 - Ribfat .35 - Rump fat - .37 Weight - 1270
#C18 - IMF 3.98 - Ribeye 16.8 - Ribfat .40 - Rump fat - .48 Weight - 1395
#C22 - IMF 3.94 - Ribeye 16.0 - Ribfat .37 - Rump fat - .47 Weight - 1310


#C01 - DOB 10/03/03 days at ultra 411
#C10 - DOB 10/05/03 days at ultra 409
#C15 - DOB 10/14/03 days at ultra 400
#C16 - DOB 11/07/03 days at ultra 407
#C18 - DOB 10/05/03 days at ultra 409
#C22 - DOB 10/12/03 days at ultra 402
 

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