greybeard
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I'm pretty sure coons were in pretty good shape back where I lived last year and skunks the same way out here, judging from the number of dead skunks I see on the roadways.
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I'm pretty sure coons were in pretty good shape back where I lived last year and skunks the same way out here, judging from the number of dead skunks I see on the roadways.
Caustic Burno
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In my real world we no longer have a turkey season. TPWD has closed here for five years and will reevaluate then.
You haven’t had the habitat destruction either the Big Thicket was millions of acres in the sixties today less than 90k in isolated reserve pockets consisting of half dozen units.
This destruction again was from the Trinity river east to the Atlantic Ocean for pine trees.
Nothing grows under a pine plantation.
Wouldn’t matter we no longer have turkey’s to hunt.
Had a friend die recently. He was 76 years old. Now that he is dead I am sure he won’t mind me telling this story. He was about as a hard core cock fighter that has ever been born. He lived to fight game rooster’s and if I were to say his name on here which I won’t. I would be willing to bet there would be people here know of him.
Anyone who fights game cocks maintains a lot of them tied to tie cords inside of a high fenced in area to protect their fighting cocks from predators.
One the worst predators he had to deal with was Owls. He told killed 400 and something Owls in the 30 years he had live in his last place of residence. And said he had probably killed almost as many in the other place’s he had lived before he moved there.
The way he killed the owls was by setting a still trap on a post about 10 foot tall on the fence. The owls land on the post in order to pick them out a rooster, get a foot in the still trap. And my friend said you find the Owl hanging up side down the next morning.
We talked talked about the fact that owls probably kill a lot of turkeys and quail and my friend told me he guaranteed me that they do. He said the Owls had killed a lot of his roosters before he learned how to trap them. And said he still lost a lot after he learned how to trap them.
Fur trapping started becoming a thing of the past back in the early eighties. So predators like coon, bobcat, fox, coyote etc…,along with the owls, use of chemicals all played roll’s in the declining population’s. And the big loss of habitat as Caustic has talked about. Then you throw in human predators (hunter’s) that has increased by 10 fold +.
I don’t think there is a way to bring things back to the way they were.
Anyone who fights game cocks maintains a lot of them tied to tie cords inside of a high fenced in area to protect their fighting cocks from predators.
One the worst predators he had to deal with was Owls. He told killed 400 and something Owls in the 30 years he had live in his last place of residence. And said he had probably killed almost as many in the other place’s he had lived before he moved there.
The way he killed the owls was by setting a still trap on a post about 10 foot tall on the fence. The owls land on the post in order to pick them out a rooster, get a foot in the still trap. And my friend said you find the Owl hanging up side down the next morning.
We talked talked about the fact that owls probably kill a lot of turkeys and quail and my friend told me he guaranteed me that they do. He said the Owls had killed a lot of his roosters before he learned how to trap them. And said he still lost a lot after he learned how to trap them.
Fur trapping started becoming a thing of the past back in the early eighties. So predators like coon, bobcat, fox, coyote etc…,along with the owls, use of chemicals all played roll’s in the declining population’s. And the big loss of habitat as Caustic has talked about. Then you throw in human predators (hunter’s) that has increased by 10 fold +.
I don’t think there is a way to bring things back to the way they were.
Travlr
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Predators have to eat, just like anything else. And when the pickings get slim they move on to better hunting grounds. Something related happens with prey animals. If they survive until the predators thin out, they have more chances of raising young successfully. Nature works in cycles.
wbvs58
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So CB, what has happened to Fence, the OP of this thread? My impression when he came back and posted a couple of weeks ago he was spoiling for a bit of contoversy, am I correct?
Ken
Ken
Travlr
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I'd like to know too...
wbvs58
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Silence is golden, no response from CB so I take it that our old mate Fence got the boot.
Sorry to see you go Fence.
Ken
Travlr
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Me too...
chaded
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When you click on his profile it says its not available. I’m not sure what he did to get banned if he did get banned. Unless it was in the political forum. I wouldn’t know because I stay out of there. Hopefully he’s not banned though..
Dave
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It was some years back but Fence got ban in the past.
wbvs58
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4hfarms
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When we purchased this property (No turkeys) it was old overgrown pasture. (15-25ft trees). Bush hogged regularly. Worked itself out with rotations. As I rotate the cows The turkeys come and go around here now. . New neighbors have about 8 horses that kept the birds on the other end of the property all through spring hunting season. Like a game for them to keep them in the woods. I had fun watching.... maybe better luck in the fall.
Son of Butch
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Fence broke a moderator's cardinal sin. Religious debating is only allowed in Politics and Religion forum IF both parties are on the same side of an issue.
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Don’t see banning on here like it has been in the past..one user had a Laundry list of user names..once he was in a heated argument got banned, and was back at in just a few post down..just switched a few letters around in his name..they were banning folks left and right in the old days..
Travlr
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It's really kind of thought provoking that people feel a responsibility to keep people civil, and will limit subjects and make judgments about what words (and ideas) are appropriate. I mean, I get the idea that a majority want civil dialogue... but it's still something to think about as far as giving people that kind of authority and control. And I'm not criticizing the mods. It just the idea itself that gets my mind wondering. What would it be like if there were no rules, and nobody enforcing them? In the States we assume Freedom of Speech... but have accepted limits. I guess the owners of the site have that power... but do they really have any responsibility? I'd bet they think they do, and define it as they wish.
The cardinal sin on any forum is taking your grievances to the public forum rather than in side messages with the mods.Fence broke a moderator's cardinal sin. Religious debating is only allowed in Politics and Religion forum IF both parties are on the same side of an issue.
Right or wrong... I haven't seen many people make it after that, any where.
I say this every time it comes up. This is one of the more laxed boards I'm on. Do any of this stuff on the other boards and you are gone like yesterday... no second chances.
50/50Farms
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Some people on here have incredibly thin skin, somehow.
Maybe the mods could put the post that get someone banned out there for all to see. I would say personal attacks would be off limits but lively discussion shouldn't be a problem, especially in a forum created for such.
Thats a lot of turkey
