Trade War

[Bestoutwest]

we have completely built china from a 3rd world crap country to a superpower.. all with buying the junk they produce..

We can't keep growing these countries and making ours weaker. As soon as we are weak, they are going to team up and screw us over. you can bet the farm on that.

First, China had some role in becoming a World Power. They are very industrious, intelligent people.

Second, we didn't build them out of the goodness of our heart. Give them credit, we cannot compete with them on a manufacturing basis. I will say this - some of their products STINKS the place up. All the Bushhog Rotary Cutters now have Chinese gear boxes. They only last half as long as the old gear boxes. The Bushhog dealer actually told me that. Problem is - China is making all the gear boxes for almost everything now.

Third, don't hold your breath. I hope the new policies work but in this new age, there is more to our trade problems than the rhetoric suggests. IMO - government cannot fix world economics. I support attempts to facilitate fair trade but the foundation economics cannot be changed by government in a capitalist society. In fact, that is what is fundamental to CAPITALISM- the government does not control it.

Ron, don't you know that the only people in the world that are smart and work hard are white folks from America? Everyone else is a stupid, lazy, bleeding heart socialist/communist that only wants to steal from others and give it all away to their friends and family.

 

[Jogeephus]

Priced a harrow yesterday exactly like one I bought a few years ago. Talk about a price increase. Price has doubled. Not to be beat down I ended up proposing a win/win deal with the manufacturer and the dealer and got a 50% discount with no freight so at the end of the day the shock wasn't that bad.

 

[Bright Raven]

we have completely built china from a 3rd world crap country to a superpower.. all with buying the junk they produce..

We can't keep growing these countries and making ours weaker. As soon as we are weak, they are going to team up and screw us over. you can bet the farm on that.

First, China had some role in becoming a World Power. They are very industrious, intelligent people.

Second, we didn't build them out of the goodness of our heart. Give them credit, we cannot compete with them on a manufacturing basis. I will say this - some of their products STINKS the place up. All the Bushhog Rotary Cutters now have Chinese gear boxes. They only last half as long as the old gear boxes. The Bushhog dealer actually told me that. Problem is - China is making all the gear boxes for almost everything now.

Third, don't hold your breath. I hope the new policies work but in this new age, there is more to our trade problems than the rhetoric suggests. IMO - government cannot fix world economics. I support attempts to facilitate fair trade but the foundation economics cannot be changed by government in a capitalist society. In fact, that is what is fundamental to CAPITALISM- the government does not control it.

Ron, don't you know that the only people in the world that are smart and work hard are white folks from America? Everyone else is a stupid, lazy, bleeding heart socialist/communist that only wants to steal from others and give it all away to their friends and family.

This fits most Americans, from bball:

Happy people build their inner world; unhappy people blame their outer world. -Dalai Lama

 

[Bright Raven]

Make America Happy Again

 

[jehosofat]

Ron, don't you know that the only people in the world that are smart and work hard are white folks from America? Everyone else is a stupid, lazy, bleeding heart socialist/communist that only wants to steal from others and give it all away to their friends and family.

Riddle me this . . . . . .why aren't they sending us billions of dollars in foreign aid, instead of the other way around.

 

[M-5]

we have completely built china from a 3rd world crap country to a superpower.. all with buying the junk they produce..

We can't keep growing these countries and making ours weaker. As soon as we are weak, they are going to team up and screw us over. you can bet the farm on that.

First, China had some role in becoming a World Power. They are very industrious, intelligent people.

Second, we didn't build them out of the goodness of our heart. Give them credit, we cannot compete with them on a manufacturing basis. I will say this - some of their products STINKS the place up. All the Bushhog Rotary Cutters now have Chinese gear boxes. They only last half as long as the old gear boxes. The Bushhog dealer actually told me that. Problem is - China is making all the gear boxes for almost everything now.

Third, don't hold your breath. I hope the new policies work but in this new age, there is more to our trade problems than the rhetoric suggests. IMO - government cannot fix world economics. I support attempts to facilitate fair trade but the foundation economics cannot be changed by government in a capitalist society. In fact, that is what is fundamental to CAPITALISM- the government does not control it.

Ron, don't you know that the only people in the world that are smart and work hard are white folks from America? Everyone else is a stupid, lazy, bleeding heart socialist/communist that only wants to steal from others and give it all away to their friends and family.

Stupid , lazy and socialist come in all colors and hardworking smart people come in all colors too. Only certain People try to make it about race when its not.

 

[sim.-ang.king]

Everyone wants to fix the problem, but no one wants to pay for it.

 

[Bestoutwest]

Ron, don't you know that the only people in the world that are smart and work hard are white folks from America? Everyone else is a stupid, lazy, bleeding heart socialist/communist that only wants to steal from others and give it all away to their friends and family.

Riddle me this . . . . . .why aren't they sending us billions of dollars in foreign aid, instead of the other way around.

Because it benefits us to grease the palms of the world, among other reasons. Part of it is stupidity on our part. Part of it is that some folks live in places with minimal natural resources and will never get past third world status until sand becomes as limited and coveted a product as oil, gold, etc.

 

[Bestoutwest]

Stupid , lazy and socialist come in all colors and hardworking smart people come in all colors too. Only certain People try to make it about race when its not.

And unfortunately, some folks have made a living by making everything about race.

 

[M-5]

Stupid , lazy and socialist come in all colors and hardworking smart people come in all colors too. Only certain People try to make it about race when its not.

And unfortunately, some folks have made a living by making everything about race.

And in the 21st century is only ONE RACE that does the majority of it. They Gotta keep that plantation staffed with slaves you know. I wish folks would wake up and see the truth .

 

[greybeard]

They are very industrious, intelligent people.

They, like all Asian culture are very patient. Their long term goals are exactly that and it doesn't matter to them if it happens quickly or over the space of decades. This is not their 1st rodeo.

Tienanmen Square had a lot to do with their pivot to a much more capitalistic economy. It was in that same square, that China's Mao first harnessed & used the student Red Guard demographic to achieve their goals in the 'Cultural Revolution' of the late 20th century (60s-70s) and the leaders knew full well the power that it's many millions of students could wield. It wasn't long after the tanks rolled thru the square in 1989, that the politburu thru chairman Deng Xiaoping began to relax the strong central control it held over industry and manufacturing. It took over a decade for it to become full fledged, but they were in no hurry.

 

[sim.-ang.king]

Ron, don't you know that the only people in the world that are smart and work hard are white folks from America? Everyone else is a stupid, lazy, bleeding heart socialist/communist that only wants to steal from others and give it all away to their friends and family.

Riddle me this . . . . . .why aren't they sending us billions of dollars in foreign aid, instead of the other way around.

Because it benefits us to grease the palms of the world, among other reasons. Part of it is stupidity on our part. Part of it is that some folks live in places with minimal natural resources and will never get past third world status until sand becomes as limited and coveted a product as oil, gold, etc.

While we're at it lets give them nukes, and stealth bombers, since they will never be able to reach that goal on their own.

Save the world, and screw your own country. Sounds like a great plan.

 

[True Grit Farms]

Such as what? Fox News is too right wing. Huffpost is waaaaaay too left leaning. NPR is decent, but still left leaning. Then there's the whole host of online "news" sites. Everyone has an agenda to push, and advertising dollars to collect.

npr.. decent... ?? hahahahaha


maybe if you want to cry about how some people on a raft got picked up but weren't allowed in xxxxx country... oh.. those poor poor poor people.. booo hoo.. lets let them come to the US.. give them 100k , a car, and a house and give them a few white slaves.

You might need to see your doctor. Looks like you have no heart might be something you need to have checked. Compassion is and admirable thing in the human race.

Got plenty of heart it's made and backed by the US of A. Compassion is easy to do when your spending someone else's money. It's very apparent we need to be compassionate to one another in this country before we worry about anywhere else. I see people of all races in this COUNTRY that could use a little help.

 

[Bright Raven]

Ron, don't you know that the only people in the world that are smart and work hard are white folks from America? Everyone else is a stupid, lazy, bleeding heart socialist/communist that only wants to steal from others and give it all away to their friends and family.

Riddle me this . . . . . .why aren't they sending us billions of dollars in foreign aid, instead of the other way around.

They do send us billions of dollars but not as Aid. China and Japan are the largest buyer of US DEBT.

It's the biggest pile of debt in the world -- the $14.5 trillion U.S. Treasuries market. It's been built with the help of foreign central banks and investors, who have clamored to buy U.S. government bonds through good times and bad. But what happens if their appetite wanes? Both China and Japan -- the biggest foreign owners of Treasuries -- have pared their holdings from the record levels of recent years. And with the U.S. looking at bigger budget deficits, not smaller, a drop in demand for its bonds could be particularly ill-timed.

 

[Bestoutwest]

While we're at it lets give them nukes, and stealth bombers, since they will never be able to reach that goal on their own.

Save the world, and screw your own country. Sounds like a great plan.

It's stupidity personified.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... 2d59400be0

While I don't agree with everything Trump does (and who does with any president), this is a good move.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN1ET2DX

 

[Fieldhand]

Anthony Pratt, the richest person in Australia, will be investing nearly $2 billion in the U.S. in hopes of creating new jobs and doubling American food production – and he credits it all to President Trump's business-friendly Tax Cuts and Jobs Act of 2017.

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The tax overhaul slashed the corporate tax rate to 21% from 35% in hopes of making the U.S. more competitive with foreign countries.

"It's going to lead to a tsunami of investment in the United States," he said during an interview with FOX Business' Stuart Varney on Tuesday. "We make corrugated boxes, everything that's manufactured goes in a box. So we think we're a barometer of the economy."

https://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/aus ... aying-jobs

 

[True Grit Farms]

While we're at it lets give them nukes, and stealth bombers, since they will never be able to reach that goal on their own.

Save the world, and screw your own country. Sounds like a great plan.

It's stupidity personified.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wor ... 2d59400be0

While I don't agree with everything Trump does (and who does with any president), this is a good move.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKBN1ET2DX

Didn't our last genius POTUS gave BILLIONS to Iran?

 

[ddd75]

Such as what? Fox News is too right wing. Huffpost is waaaaaay too left leaning. NPR is decent, but still left leaning. Then there's the whole host of online "news" sites. Everyone has an agenda to push, and advertising dollars to collect.

npr.. decent... ?? hahahahaha


maybe if you want to cry about how some people on a raft got picked up but weren't allowed in xxxxx country... oh.. those poor poor poor people.. booo hoo.. lets let them come to the US.. give them 100k , a car, and a house and give them a few white slaves.

You might need to see your doctor. Looks like you have no heart might be something you need to have checked. Compassion is and admirable thing in the human race.

hence the problem.

Bring them all here.. save them all.. help them all. Compassion....




Right.... Right........ insane.

 

[ddd75]

we have completely built china from a 3rd world crap country to a superpower.. all with buying the junk they produce..

We can't keep growing these countries and making ours weaker. As soon as we are weak, they are going to team up and screw us over. you can bet the farm on that.

First, China had some role in becoming a World Power. They are very industrious, intelligent people.

Second, we didn't build them out of the goodness of our heart. Give them credit, we cannot compete with them on a manufacturing basis. I will say this - some of their products STINKS the place up. All the Bushhog Rotary Cutters now have Chinese gear boxes. They only last half as long as the old gear boxes. The Bushhog dealer actually told me that. Problem is - China is making all the gear boxes for almost everything now.

Third, don't hold your breath. I hope the new policies work but in this new age, there is more to our trade problems than the rhetoric suggests. IMO - government cannot fix world economics. I support attempts to facilitate fair trade but the foundation economics cannot be changed by government in a capitalist society. In fact, that is what is fundamental to CAPITALISM- the government does not control it.

Ron, don't you know that the only people in the world that are smart and work hard are white folks from America? Everyone else is a stupid, lazy, bleeding heart socialist/communist that only wants to steal from others and give it all away to their friends and family.

ok.. so we had no role in china's growth over the last few decades..

got it.. my mistake.. and also.. racism against chinese.. got it..


ok.. now I understand... they grew themselves with intelligent marketing and superior products vs. trade deals to make politicians rich, technology stealing practices, child and adult slave labor, and no regard for the environment to name a few.

I'm glad you guys could clear that up for me..

 

[TexasBred]

First, China had some role in becoming a World Power. They are very industrious, intelligent people.

Second, we didn't build them out of the goodness of our heart. Give them credit, we cannot compete with them on a manufacturing basis. I will say this - some of their products STINKS the place up. All the Bushhog Rotary Cutters now have Chinese gear boxes. They only last half as long as the old gear boxes. The Bushhog dealer actually told me that. Problem is - China is making all the gear boxes for almost everything now.

Third, don't hold your breath. I hope the new policies work but in this new age, there is more to our trade problems than the rhetoric suggests. IMO - government cannot fix world economics. I support attempts to facilitate fair trade but the foundation economics cannot be changed by government in a capitalist society. In fact, that is what is fundamental to CAPITALISM- the government does not control it.

Ron, don't you know that the only people in the world that are smart and work hard are white folks from America? Everyone else is a stupid, lazy, bleeding heart socialist/communist that only wants to steal from others and give it all away to their friends and family.

ok.. so we had no role in china's growth over the last few decades..

got it.. my mistake.. and also.. racism against chinese.. got it..


ok.. now I understand... they grew themselves with intelligent marketing and superior products vs. trade deals to make politicians rich, technology stealing practices, child and adult slave labor, and no regard for the environment to name a few.

I'm glad you guys could clear that up for me..

Yep the Chinese finally caught up with and joined the rest of the world and just for the he// of it threw in "cheap prices".