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<blockquote data-quote="Craig-TX" data-source="post: 28827" data-attributes="member: 39"><p>I'm sick and tired of all this talk about torture and I'm disappointed in Bush for apologizing. Yeah, we humiliated some people over there and we intimidated some people. That is a country mile away from torturing people. </p><p></p><p>All the media are talking about is apology, apology, apology. For crying out loud it takes more endurance and physical bravery to get in the Aggie Corps than to be an Iraqi prisoner of the US. Those thugs are in that prison for a reason. If we have to rough them up a little or hurt their feelings to get them to behave or talk, fine by me. </p><p></p><p>I heard one of the "victims" interviewed today and all he could do was talk about his shame and being stripped of his honor. That guy has no shame or he wouldn't have been a henchman in the former regime. The same goes for honor. </p><p></p><p>I'm not trying to condone or justify any form of <em>true</em> torture, at least for the run of the mill Iraqi inmate. But I'm getting ready to puke if we keep wringing our hands and calling for resignations and apologies over what would only pass for college hazing here. So far I haven't seen any pictures of real torture. Not by the US.</p><p></p><p>Iraqis know what real torture is. They know the difference. We're so soft over here that we don't. We think it's torture if prisons don't have air conditioning, TV and libraries. Or if somebody gets uncomfortable or has their dignity hurt. We think sensitivity training is the way to win their hearts and minds. If the entire Arab nation gets their feelings hurt, that's their problem. The way they treat their women and their own people, and they have the gall to whine about being put on a dog leash and led around naked by a female? What a crock. They're just scared to death of an empowered woman.</p><p></p><p>Does anybody honestly think an apology would make them like us? Would us begging for forgiveness make it all better? </p><p></p><p>OK, I'll hop off the soapbox. Let the liberal wailing begin.</p><p></p><p>Craig-TX</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Craig-TX, post: 28827, member: 39"] I’m sick and tired of all this talk about torture and I’m disappointed in Bush for apologizing. Yeah, we humiliated some people over there and we intimidated some people. That is a country mile away from torturing people. All the media are talking about is apology, apology, apology. For crying out loud it takes more endurance and physical bravery to get in the Aggie Corps than to be an Iraqi prisoner of the US. Those thugs are in that prison for a reason. If we have to rough them up a little or hurt their feelings to get them to behave or talk, fine by me. I heard one of the “victims” interviewed today and all he could do was talk about his shame and being stripped of his honor. That guy has no shame or he wouldn’t have been a henchman in the former regime. The same goes for honor. I’m not trying to condone or justify any form of [i]true[/i] torture, at least for the run of the mill Iraqi inmate. But I’m getting ready to puke if we keep wringing our hands and calling for resignations and apologies over what would only pass for college hazing here. So far I haven’t seen any pictures of real torture. Not by the US. Iraqis know what real torture is. They know the difference. We’re so soft over here that we don’t. We think it’s torture if prisons don’t have air conditioning, TV and libraries. Or if somebody gets uncomfortable or has their dignity hurt. We think sensitivity training is the way to win their hearts and minds. If the entire Arab nation gets their feelings hurt, that's their problem. The way they treat their women and their own people, and they have the gall to whine about being put on a dog leash and led around naked by a female? What a crock. They're just scared to death of an empowered woman. Does anybody honestly think an apology would make them like us? Would us begging for forgiveness make it all better? OK, I’ll hop off the soapbox. Let the liberal wailing begin. Craig-TX [/QUOTE]
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