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That doesn't surprise me in the least. Riding through Montana there's game everywhere along the side of the road, except when you get to the Indian reservations.
 
True Grit Farms":34jdrgzq said:
That doesn't surprise me in the least. Riding through Montana there's game everywhere along the side of the road, except when you get to the Indian reservations.

These acts seem to be both for meat and as acts of protest. Candidly, I am sympathetic toward Native Americans. No surprise to me why they respond as they do given the history of their treatment by Anglo-Saxon invaders.

Grit: You mentioned being in Bozeman. Did you get time to tour Montana? There are 7 reservations. Each independently governed by their our tribal governments. Poaching is always a problem. On and off reservation.
 
Margonme":3h4xstpd said:
True Grit Farms":3h4xstpd said:
That doesn't surprise me in the least. Riding through Montana there's game everywhere along the side of the road, except when you get to the Indian reservations.

These acts seem to be both for meat and as acts of protest. Candidly, I am sympathetic toward Native Americans. No surprise to me why they respond as they do given the history of their treatment by Anglo-Saxon invaders.

Grit: You mentioned being in Bozeman. Did you get time to tour Montana? There are 7 reservations. Each independently governed by their our tribal governments. Poaching is always a problem. On and off reservation.

We only drove 2,400 miles of road in Montana, and that isn't much as you know. The Indians I'm familiar with from Fl, MN, WI, ND, Alberta sure put a hurting on wildlife. I'll have an Indian cousin from WI down hunting Friday. He enjoys the way we hunt down here. Where he's from they ride the roads looking for something to shoot.
 
Margonme":oobtkwek said:
True Grit Farms":oobtkwek said:
That doesn't surprise me in the least. Riding through Montana there's game everywhere along the side of the road, except when you get to the Indian reservations.

These acts seem to be both for meat and as acts of protest. Candidly, I am sympathetic toward Native Americans. No surprise to me why they respond as they do given the history of their treatment by Anglo-Saxon invaders.

Grit: You mentioned being in Bozeman. Did you get time to tour Montana? There are 7 reservations. Each independently governed by their our tribal governments. Poaching is always a problem. On and off reservation.

What would expect Stone Age man was yanked from flint and sticks to the industrial revolution in less than a hundred years.
 
Caustic Burno":3jn6882w said:
Margonme":3jn6882w said:
True Grit Farms":3jn6882w said:
That doesn't surprise me in the least. Riding through Montana there's game everywhere along the side of the road, except when you get to the Indian reservations.

These acts seem to be both for meat and as acts of protest. Candidly, I am sympathetic toward Native Americans. No surprise to me why they respond as they do given the history of their treatment by Anglo-Saxon invaders.

Grit: You mentioned being in Bozeman. Did you get time to tour Montana? There are 7 reservations. Each independently governed by their our tribal governments. Poaching is always a problem. On and off reservation.

What would expect Stone Age man was yanked from flint and sticks to the industrial revolution in less than a hundred years.

At least most American Indians don't vote, they don't trust the government.
 
Caustic Burno":18llolnn said:
Margonme":18llolnn said:
True Grit Farms":18llolnn said:
That doesn't surprise me in the least. Riding through Montana there's game everywhere along the side of the road, except when you get to the Indian reservations.

These acts seem to be both for meat and as acts of protest. Candidly, I am sympathetic toward Native Americans. No surprise to me why they respond as they do given the history of their treatment by Anglo-Saxon invaders.

Grit: You mentioned being in Bozeman. Did you get time to tour Montana? There are 7 reservations. Each independently governed by their our tribal governments. Poaching is always a problem. On and off reservation.

What would expect Stone Age man was yanked from flint and sticks to the industrial revolution in less than a hundred years.
And prior to that simply fought other tribes, killing many and enslaving others.
 
True Grit Farms":2v7azmz2 said:
Caustic Burno":2v7azmz2 said:
Margonme":2v7azmz2 said:
These acts seem to be both for meat and as acts of protest. Candidly, I am sympathetic toward Native Americans. No surprise to me why they respond as they do given the history of their treatment by Anglo-Saxon invaders.

Grit: You mentioned being in Bozeman. Did you get time to tour Montana? There are 7 reservations. Each independently governed by their our tribal governments. Poaching is always a problem. On and off reservation.

What would expect Stone Age man was yanked from flint and sticks to the industrial revolution in less than a hundred years.

At least most American Indians don't vote, they don't trust the government.
Yougottabeshittinme !!!
 
There's been a change in the standoff over the previously stalled Dakota Access Pipeline but you wouldn't be able to tell it from the actions of the protesters. This week the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit denied a request from the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe for a permanent injunction on additional construction on tribal lands. That's not going to slow down the activities of the environmentalists camped out in the area to protest the project, however. They immediately released a statement indicating that the fight would go on and they won't be leaving their illegal compound established on federal land. All of this was taking place well after earlier instances where armed protesters turned violent, breaking down fences and initiating confrontations where three pipeline security officers were injured.



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By this point you may be wondering why federal authorities haven't stepped in to bring the situation under control. After all, when a different group of protesters who were similarly armed took over some federal land in Oregon last year in support of the Bundys, the government began arresting people in a matter of weeks. What could be the difference? Our friend Dustin Siggins helpfully pointed me to an article by Rachel Alexander, writing at Stream last week, examined the question and quickly identified the disconnect.

In stark contrast to the small, low-key rancher protest, hundreds of members of the Standing Rock Sioux tribe and armed environmental activists have been camping out for two months on federal lands in North Dakota and Iowa, protesting the construction of the four-state Dakota Access oil pipeline. The protests have resulted in violence, with both sides blaming the other…

Mercer County Sheriff Dean Danzeisen of North Dakota sent a letter to U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch expressing his concerns about their guns. "They are armed, hostile, and engaged in training exercises which can only be intended to promote violence, whether on Corps property or elsewhere." Dealing with the protesters also costs law enforcement extra money for overtime.

Yet federal agents say they have no intention of removing the trespassers, declaring they have a free speech right to be on U.S. Army Corps of Engineers' land. The Corps has encouraged the protesters to move to adjacent land where they have a permit to stay, but they refuse.

Unlike the situation in Oregon where nothing was being destroyed (aside from some littering at one federal building) there is vandalism and physical violence taking place in North Dakota. Not only are the local law enforcement officials asking the feds to help break up the illegal camp and restore order but North Dakota's congressman, Kevin Cramer, has been asking Washington to step in and complaining that the federal agents are looking the other way.



These aren't decisions that are made at a local level. The direction taken by federal law enforcement comes down from the top, particularly when the United States Attorney General has been directly contacted by law enforcement on the ground asking for assistance. Still, this is being treated as a free speech issue rather than a clear violation of the law which has already boiled over into violence on more than one occasion.

If these had been Tea Party activists protesting in support of fossil fuel development they would already be in jail. Heck, during the Oregon protests one of the ranchers, Lavoy Finicum, was actually shot and killed as a result of it. But because the situation in North Dakota is a politically popular subject on the Left, the Justice Department is refusing to step in and the encampment on federal lands remains in place. This isn't a question of whether or not either protest has more or less merit than the other, but rather a double standard being applied by an extremely politicized Justice Department.
 
Caustic Burno":q4uhiy6a said:
Margonme":q4uhiy6a said:
True Grit Farms":q4uhiy6a said:
That doesn't surprise me in the least. Riding through Montana there's game everywhere along the side of the road, except when you get to the Indian reservations.

These acts seem to be both for meat and as acts of protest. Candidly, I am sympathetic toward Native Americans. No surprise to me why they respond as they do given the history of their treatment by Anglo-Saxon invaders.

Grit: You mentioned being in Bozeman. Did you get time to tour Montana? There are 7 reservations. Each independently governed by their our tribal governments. Poaching is always a problem. On and off reservation.

What would expect Stone Age man was yanked from flint and sticks to the industrial revolution in less than a hundred years.

Exactly, I cannot think of any parallel in world history where a civilization as primitive as the native American was faced with such a similar disadvantage in technology. There is no honor in defeating and subduing an adversary with such overwhelming odds. However, there were occasions when they did remarkably well.

There are other examples where primitive cultures pulled off some amazing victories. The British learned that lesson fighting the Zulu. At the end of the day, technology wins.
 

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