GoWyo
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My problem with almost every Confidence Plus son out there is his terrible scrotal size EPD. Maybe they are just late hitting puberty - I don't know. For some reason the HP on them is quite high despite the SC EPD.
It's been found that while scrotal size is correlated to when heifers cycle, it's really not that importantMy problem with almost every Confidence Plus son out there is his terrible scrotal size EPD. Maybe they are just late hitting puberty - I don't know. For some reason the HP on them is quite high despite the SC EPD.
I don't know the bull or any of his stats, so I'm guessing you are asking about conformation.
Rear leg is a little straight, front shoulder is a little straight. Neck should be more muscular. Hard to tell on the rear hip but it looks on the short side. Depth is okay, and lacks a beer gut which is good. I'd give him a 6, but would breed accordingly with my above comments.
Apparently you did not read what I wrote. I said there are some good bulls in the past but way too many that "had potential", were collected and did little good. The promoters are still doing the same thing. Go to some of the web sale sites and there are a lot of bulls from $5 to $500. What a person needs to know is what fits their environment and management and then start looking. Do you look at the price of the semen or the quality of the calves to determine the amount semen is worth?@Ebenezer share with us the names of these great ones you speak of that are filling all of these tanks.
Are these great ones affordable to the commercial cattle raisers?
Looked him up. Dam had 4 calves recorded for birth, 3 for weaning and 2 for yearling. That does not do anything for me. $EN is negative and feet scores are like he is up on his hoof tips or something.Apparently you did not read what I wrote. I said there are some good bulls in the past but way too many that "had potential", were collected and did little good. The promoters are still doing the same thing. Go to some of the web sale sites and there are a lot of bulls from $5 to $500. What a person needs to know is what fits their environment and management and then start looking. Do you look at the price of the semen or the quality of the calves to determine the amount semen is worth?
I need to look this bull up and see what he has to offer.
You are the one you have please so if you like him go ahead. If you have time you may wish to do more research as the picture appears
I live nearby Butchs Angus. They have been in the business for a long time and have very nice cattle. Some of our first registered cows came from Butchs. I think he's a good looking bull and has a nice epd profile. His numbers would work in our program. I may be wrong but I think Paul Meier (Butchs son) may be a Genex rep.
I agree a personal dislike with too many bulls today are the sway backs that look like the bottom of a rocking chair.Love his topline.
I think a lot of the problem is photographers want the pic with the head up and ears forward. That drops the middle unless the bull is being posed on halter with head up and a show stick pulling up the middle. Probably no one would use this bull just going by his picture in a catalog but he is in a lot of Angus pedigrees. Nothing prettier than fat.I agree a personal dislike with too many bulls today are the sway backs that look like the bottom of a rocking chair.
The one at the start of this post has a good topline with head up and ears forward….I don't like chair rockers eitherI think a lot of the problem is photographers want the pic with the head up and ears forward. That drops the middle unless the bull is being posed on halter with head up and a show stick pulling up the middle. Probably no one would use this bull just going by his picture in a catalog but he is in a lot of Angus pedigrees. Nothing prettier than fat.
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