Thought on chiangus

[Down in Dixie]

I have a large breeder down the road from me that breeds angus, simangus, and chiangus. I have an opportunity to run about 25 cows at the neighbors place and looking at purchasing two more bulls. One bull I'm looking at is 1/4 chi and the other is 7/32. They look the part and have the frame I'm looking for. They have 7 bulls left from the over 100 they sell a year so slim pickings but I believe they will do the part. What is the general consensus on the breed and any additional thought on them?

 

[Ky hills]

I know a guy that manages a Chiangus farm in TN. From what I see that he posts in FB, they look pretty good.
I contacted him about a bull last year, but we decided to go a different route a little closer to home.
There's also a Chiangus breeder here in KY, never been to look at their cattle, just see them advertised occasionally when they have bulls for sale.
They market them as being more growth with calving ease.
They also claim that the Chi blood helps to calm down the disposition of the Angus. I'm not totally convinced of that last one from what I've heard about Chianina in the past.
Had some cousins that ran some Chiangus bulls in the past, never heard anything negative about them from them. At one time they said they liked at least a quarter Chi in all their cattle. That was during the 80's maybe real early 90's..

 

[MurraysMutts]

I had a beautiful chiangus cow that was very big framed. And very tall.
She saved me arse walking down an alleyway to the pen one time. Rammed an excited lil cow that was about to bowl me over. She hit that smaller cow so hard she flew back plumb outta the way.
Basically told her to wait her dang turn.
I miss that cow lot. She let a dern coyote eat her calf and I shipped her.
That cow was always so gentle. Her half sister too.
Can't miss her. Shes the one that could walk OVER the fence with ease. But always respectful. Never got out.

 

[Down in Dixie]

I had a beautiful chiangus cow that was very big framed. And very tall.
She saved me arse walking down an alleyway to the pen one time. Rammed an excited lil cow that was about to bowl me over. She hit that smaller cow so hard she flew back plumb outta the way.
Basically told her to wait her dang turn.
I miss that cow lot. She let a dern coyote eat her calf and I shipped her.
That cow was always so gentle. Her half sister too.
Can't miss her. Shes the one that could walk OVER the fence with ease. But always respectful. Never got out.
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That cow dwarfs the other cows. Man she is tall.

 

[Down in Dixie]

So here is a bad pic of one of the bulls. He apparently had an ear infection when he was younger and has some damage to his ears. Auburn university came out and checked him out and said he was good but may have some hearing loss. Getting him for a discount but he is thick with a good frame. Other bull is taller but has the build that will complement the cows I will put him with.

 

[Down in Dixie]

This is the sire to the bull pictured above.

 

[coachg]

So here is a bad pic of one of the bulls. He apparently had an ear infection when he was younger and has some damage to his ears. Auburn university came out and checked him out and said he was good but may have some hearing loss. Getting him for a discount but he is thick with a good frame. Other bull is taller but has the build that will complement the cows I will put him with. View attachment 56990

Ugly rascal with those ears , but won't hurt the calves he throws . Not many folks eat cow ears that I know of ?

 

[Warren Allison]

I have a large breeder down the road from me that breeds angus, simangus, and chiangus. I have an opportunity to run about 25 cows at the neighbors place and looking at purchasing two more bulls. One bull I'm looking at is 1/4 chi and the other is 7/32. They look the part and have the frame I'm looking for. They have 7 bulls left from the over 100 they sell a year so slim pickings but I believe they will do the part. What is the general consensus on the breed and any additional thought on them?

They can be up to 7/8ths Chianina and be registered as a Chiangus, as long as there is only registered Angus or registered red Angus. At /'8ths Chianina they can be registered as pure bred Chianina. Full blood Chianina has to be 100% registered Chianina. Until 10 years ago, they had to be 15/5ths Chiania to be purebred, but once the rule changed to 7/8ths. many registered ChaiAngus got their Chianina papers issued. You can look at his papers, and it will tell you what the percentage Angus and percentage Chinina are. They will also show whether homo or hetero black.
Met a man a couple of years ago that has 30 registered homo for black Simm cows, and 30 reg homo for black Chiangus, which are registered pb Chianina. He AI's the Simm to ChiaAngus bulls for heifers calves, and ais his Chi cows to black Simms for heifer calves. He has all of these heifers sold before they are born. The buyers pick them up at weaning in July. A friend of mine bought 20 of them last year. They are now 15 months old. The smallest was 1300 lbs last week, when he had them pelvis scored and started the AI protocol on them.

This breeder has a closed herd of cows he started putting together in 2004, I think, when he got out of the Army. He doesn't buy new blood anymore. When a cow is approaching 10-12, he will AI her that year to a same-breed bull, that he feels like matches her best, and keeps her heifer for a replacement. These heifers are not registered in any association, but he gives a copy of the cow's papers, and the bulls papers to the buyers of these heifers. He also includes the BW, WW, etc records of that heifer's damn, and a record of all vaccs, etc, the calf has had. and of course, the EPDs for the bull are on his papers. My friend is breeding these heifers to red Char, this month, AI for bull calves. They will be black, polled, and should grow like the devil. I believe he said the pelvic score on these heifers were all in the 200's.

I have never seen a Chianina or Chiangus that were not well mannered. some Chiangus that are more Angus, may be kinda protective of a new calf for a few days.. no worse than pure Angus are. Chianina bulls tend to throw long calves with relatively small heads, and slim shoulders.

Scott's brother has bred some of his Brangus to both Black Simm and Chiangus or Chianina bulls, and he said they calve easier than the ones bred to the Black Simm do, but they really aren't that hard to calve either.
What kind of cows do you have, @Down in Dixie , I forgot?

 

[Down in Dixie]

They can be up to 7/8ths Chianina and be registered as a Chiangus, as long as there is only registered Angus or registered red Angus. At /'8ths Chianina they can be registered as pure bred Chianina. Full blood Chianina has to be 100% registered Chianina. Until 10 years ago, they had to be 15/5ths Chiania to be purebred, but once the rule changed to 7/8ths. many registered ChaiAngus got their Chianina papers issued. You can look at his papers, and it will tell you what the percentage Angus and percentage Chinina are. They will also show whether homo or hetero black.
Met a man a couple of years ago that has 30 registered homo for black Simm cows, and 30 reg homo for black Chiangus, which are registered pb Chianina. He AI's the Simm to ChiaAngus bulls for heifers calves, and ais his Chi cows to black Simms for heifer calves. He has all of these heifers sold before they are born. The buyers pick them up at weaning in July. A friend of mine bought 20 of them last year. They are now 15 months old. The smallest was 1300 lbs last week, when he had them pelvis scored and started the AI protocol on them.

This breeder has a closed herd of cows he started putting together in 2004, I think, when he got out of the Army. He doesn't buy new blood anymore. When a cow is approaching 10-12, he will AI her that year to a same-breed bull, that he feels like matches her best, and keeps her heifer for a replacement. These heifers are not registered in any association, but he gives a copy of the cow's papers, and the bulls papers to the buyers of these heifers. He also includes the BW, WW, etc records of that heifer's damn, and a record of all vaccs, etc, the calf has had. and of course, the EPDs for the bull are on his papers. My friend is breeding these heifers to red Char, this month, AI for bull calves. They will be black, polled, and should grow like the devil. I believe he said the pelvic score on these heifers were all in the 200's.

I have never seen a Chianina or Chiangus that were not well mannered. some Chiangus that are more Angus, may be kinda protective of a new calf for a few days.. no worse than pure Angus are. Chianina bulls tend to throw long calves with relatively small heads, and slim shoulders.

Scott's brother has bred some of his Brangus to both Black Simm and Chiangus or Chianina bulls, and he said they calve easier than the ones bred to the Black Simm do, but they really aren't that hard to calve either.
What kind of cows do you have, @Down in Dixie , I forgot?

I have mostly sim angus cross cows that are about 1000-1200 lbs. A few wagyu crosses. I'm going to run heifers and smaller frame cows of my heifer safe gizmo bull. The other two groups I will put the chiangus bulls on.

 

[Warren Allison]

I have mostly sim angus cross cows that are about 1000-1200 lbs. A few wagyu crosses. I'm going to run heifers and smaller frame cows of my heifer safe gizmo bull. The other two groups I will put the chiangus bulls on.

That sounds like a great plan!

 

[Down in Dixie]

Well most of the cows are simangus but my herd looks like a box of crayons. These bulls are homo for black so they should clean up the multicolored herd.

 

[Warren Allison]

Well most of the cows are simangus but my herd looks like a box of crayons. These bulls are homo for black so they should clean up the multicolored herd.

Only thing that might throw a non-black calf would be a Char or Char x. And a Char x would only have one copy of the dilute gene, so 50% chance they would have black calves too.

 

[Down in Dixie]

Bull one

 

[Down in Dixie]

Bull two

 

[kenny thomas]

I like the height and length of the bulls. Years ago you would have been cussed for bringing anything with Chi blood into this area. The few that did really did cause a fuss. They were crazy. Haven't seen one in 30 years but i think they have made great strides in calming them down.

 

[Down in Dixie]

I like the height and length of the bulls. Years ago you would have been cussed for bringing anything with Chi blood into this area. The few that did really did cause a fuss. They were crazy. Haven't seen one in 30 years but i think they have made great strides in calming them down.

So far they don't seem wild at all. Walked on the trailer easy. Height was one thing I was looking at when I selected them. Trying to add some height to one set of cows. Previous calves were shorter and lacked the weight come sale time.

 

[kenny thomas]

I think the craziness has been bred out of them. They look fine to me for sure.

 

[ClinchValley86]

I looked at some a few weeks back that were bat shi* crazy. Probably the management though.

 

[Travlr]

I have a large breeder down the road from me that breeds angus, simangus, and chiangus. I have an opportunity to run about 25 cows at the neighbors place and looking at purchasing two more bulls. One bull I'm looking at is 1/4 chi and the other is 7/32. They look the part and have the frame I'm looking for. They have 7 bulls left from the over 100 they sell a year so slim pickings but I believe they will do the part. What is the general consensus on the breed and any additional thought on them?

The only Chi cross I've had personal experience with was half Chi from a Gert/Char cross cow. Big, beautiful, fertile, docile, and weaned a big calf from an udder that was hard to even see. First calf was 825# at weaning. The cow matured at 2000#. LOVED that cow... except she twinned every time after the first calf and lost half of them. Other than the twins I'd like to have as many as I could get.