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dun":w8pio8zh said:
Anyone use the Gelbvieh bull Tabasco from ABS?

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Just talked to the fella I bought my Reg GV's from. He says he used him a lot. Really liked him, only reason he quit using him is he would throw some calves that had pretty high PAP scores. For your country that don't mean nuthin.

I told my friend you would probably cross him on some very good RA cows and he said he would definately give you some great calves.
Funny you would ask about him I have 3 heifers that are out of his half brother and one is double bred to Cocoa, his sire. The all have calved unassisted for me in the last two days with calves ranging from 80 to 88 lbs.
Du have you looked at a bull named Independence from Bull Barn. I have one heifer on the ground out of him and another one on the way. He's a good bull
http://bullbarn.com/gelbepd.asp?ID=246
 
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3waycross":3l8uo8br said:
dun":3l8uo8br said:
Anyone use the Gelbvieh bull Tabasco from ABS?

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Just talked to the fella I bought my Reg GV's from. He says he used him a lot. Really liked him, only reason he quit using him is he would throw some calves that had pretty high PAP scores. For your country that don't mean nuthin.

I told my friend you would probably cross him on some very good RA cows and he said he would definately give you some great calves.
Funny you would ask about him I have 3 heifers that are out of his half brother and one is double bred to Cocoa, his sire. The all have calved unassisted for me in the last two days with calves ranging from 80 to 88 lbs.
Du have you looked at a bull named Independence from Bull Barn. I have one heifer on the ground out of him and another one on the way. He's a good bull
http://bullbarn.com/gelbepd.asp?ID=246

Milk and YW too high, RE too small. I went through all of the red Gelbvieh bulls that bullbarn had and narrowed it down to a ocupleo. Then today the vet and I discussed bulls and we finally more or less decided that Tabasco was about the best available for balance and structure.
 

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bandit80":2bw41dlk said:
dun, not sure what your goals are, but Hart Farms has a few good bulls in there as well. Bob Hart is the owner, pretty good guy. Here is my favorite of the three, http://www.bullbarn.com/gelbepd.asp?ID=297

No offense Bandit, he's a pretty good looking bull and his numbers are real nice. The downside at least for me is capacity,heartgirth, and I don't like his neck and shoulders. He's looks short coupled in the neck and shoulders. maybe not as CED as the numbers would indicate.
 
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3waycross":cqxjm5fp said:
bandit80":cqxjm5fp said:
dun, not sure what your goals are, but Hart Farms has a few good bulls in there as well. Bob Hart is the owner, pretty good guy. Here is my favorite of the three, http://www.bullbarn.com/gelbepd.asp?ID=297

No offense Bandit, he's a pretty good looking bull and his numbers are real nice. The downside at least for me is capacity,heartgirth, and I don't like his neck and shoulders. He's looks short coupled in the neck and shoulders. maybe not as CED as the numbers would indicate.
He was on my short list till I saw how posty his hind legs are.
 

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What about this one?

http://www.bullbarn.com/gelbepd.asp?ID=36


These bulls weaning under 600 really gets me. I would not even keep a bull intact at weaning time if he had the weaning weight of Tabasco and Freedom and what not. Of course I always did like the JRI bloodline from Judd Ranch but that is me.
 
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cowman30":29saiuay said:
What about this one?

http://www.bullbarn.com/gelbepd.asp?ID=36


These bulls weaning under 600 really gets me. I would not even keep a bull intact at weaning time if he had the weaning weight of Tabasco and Freedom and what not. Of course I always did like the JRI bloodline from Judd Ranch but that is me.

Bullbarn has the only decent selection of red Gelbvieh bulls around. I decided I had to make a cut off at some point and made it 6.5 or under as the maximum for frame. Kind of arbitrary but I had to weed out some of the bulls.
I also didn;t care for the camoflauge job of thr hair on the back legs. Can;t tell if he's post legged or if it's just the hair.
 

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cowman30":2f93ay5n said:
What about this one?

http://www.bullbarn.com/gelbepd.asp?ID=36


These bulls weaning under 600 really gets me. I would not even keep a bull intact at weaning time if he had the weaning weight of Tabasco and Freedom and what not. Of course I always did like the JRI bloodline from Judd Ranch but that is me.

For the record Freedom sired JRI Heavy Equiptment he weaned at 756lbs. He is also the most used Red sire in the breed. Maybe they didn't cut him at weaning because they are capable of assessing ALL his EPD's and phenatype, not just selecting for one trait.

TMBP--------the cream always rises to the top doesn't it?
 

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3waycross":13oisivv said:
cowman30":13oisivv said:
What about this one?

http://www.bullbarn.com/gelbepd.asp?ID=36


These bulls weaning under 600 really gets me. I would not even keep a bull intact at weaning time if he had the weaning weight of Tabasco and Freedom and what not. Of course I always did like the JRI bloodline from Judd Ranch but that is me.

For the record Freedom sired JRI Heavy Equiptment he weaned at 756lbs. He is also the most used Red sire in the breed. Maybe they didn't cut him at weaning because they are capable of assessing ALL his EPD's and phenatype, not just selecting for one trait.

TMBP--------the cream always rises to the top doesn't it?


Well perhaps that one bull was an exception to the rule. Who is TMBP?
 

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cowman30":1ed28mtk said:
3waycross":1ed28mtk said:
cowman30":1ed28mtk said:
What about this one?

http://www.bullbarn.com/gelbepd.asp?ID=36


These bulls weaning under 600 really gets me. I would not even keep a bull intact at weaning time if he had the weaning weight of Tabasco and Freedom and what not. Of course I always did like the JRI bloodline from Judd Ranch but that is me.

For the record Freedom sired JRI Heavy Equiptment he weaned at 756lbs. He is also the most used Red sire in the breed. Maybe they didn't cut him at weaning because they are capable of assessing ALL his EPD's and phenatype, not just selecting for one trait.

TMBP--------the cream always rises to the top doesn't it?


Well perhaps that one bull was an exception to the rule. Who is TMBP?
if you had been lurking before you joined like you said, you surely seen some of his handy work.....
 

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bandit80":3qg3sk4s said:
dun, not sure what your goals are, but Hart Farms has a few good bulls in there as well. Bob Hart is the owner, pretty good guy. Here is my favorite of the three, http://www.bullbarn.com/gelbepd.asp?ID=297

Problem with Independence or Liberty is you get horns sometimes. If horns don't bother than look into them. I used Rupples Yukon this year. I do like Tabasco. Try http://www.cattlemensconnection.com If you are still looking i can look in my Bull File. I have alot of Red Gelbviehs in there. Done alot of research on them.
 
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