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<blockquote data-quote="linbul" data-source="post: 640728" data-attributes="member: 10356"><p>Hello there! Let me tell you how I admire that board and all the helpfull information shared here... :clap: </p><p>It's gonna be a long post, but I'd like to give all the initial information needed for a right answer. My native language is not English so please excuse some misunderstandings.</p><p></p><p>First, the question: Is it Angus the right breed for us?</p><p></p><p>The conditions:</p><p>- we are in Bulgaria, the Balkans, Europe. Our region is somewhat similar to Virginia as a climate/landscape.</p><p>- we have a farm in the lowlands, where we feeded dairy calves for slaughter. Recently we bought a high mountain farm buildings to start Cow/calf beef operation. The distance between them is about 40 miles.</p><p>- due to wrong politics in the country about 90% of the cattle is dairy, mostly Jerseys and crosses. The demand for beef is very high, but the industry is not developed - no sale barns, no breeders, no feeders, no grading system. The sales are mostly direct to packers.</p><p>- the farm is at about 4800ft, on top of mountain, slightly sloped hills.</p><p>- the pasture is public land over 12,000 acres, not shared. The grass is about 80% brome, lush during April - September. No crops seeding is allowed, but hay cropping is okay. Fencing is not possible.</p><p>- we have heavy snow above 3ft from January till end of March. At that time the cattle will be in the farm buildings, feeded with hay.</p><p>- the labor cost is neglectable, but there are not many people around.</p><p></p><p>The plan:</p><p>- buyng small number of Angus heifers from Germany and starting of herd multiplication and improvement over the years reaching over 300 cows. Selling only the steers on 14-18 months age.</p><p>- after the first stage we are going to cross with terminal sire from Limousin breed and keep fullblood Angus only for replacements.</p><p>- due to conditions above we are limiting the grain usage to minimum.</p><p></p><p>The questions:</p><p>- which is really the best maternal beef breed for pasture handling? I know the question is arguable, but anyway what are the oppinions...</p><p>- how is the grass feeding and finishing affecting the qualities of the meat? There is no "grassfed niche" market here, so the question is about the real qualities.</p><p>- one of our main problems is the lack of fence. Does Angus cattle have a "flock" instinct (keeping together)? If not, which is the breed with such behavior?</p><p></p><p>Thanks in advance. Sorry if some/all os the questions are discussed before...</p><p></p><p>Edit: total area changed. wrong conversion <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite10" alt=":oops:" title="Oops! :oops:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":oops:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="linbul, post: 640728, member: 10356"] Hello there! Let me tell you how I admire that board and all the helpfull information shared here... :clap: It's gonna be a long post, but I'd like to give all the initial information needed for a right answer. My native language is not English so please excuse some misunderstandings. First, the question: Is it Angus the right breed for us? The conditions: - we are in Bulgaria, the Balkans, Europe. Our region is somewhat similar to Virginia as a climate/landscape. - we have a farm in the lowlands, where we feeded dairy calves for slaughter. Recently we bought a high mountain farm buildings to start Cow/calf beef operation. The distance between them is about 40 miles. - due to wrong politics in the country about 90% of the cattle is dairy, mostly Jerseys and crosses. The demand for beef is very high, but the industry is not developed - no sale barns, no breeders, no feeders, no grading system. The sales are mostly direct to packers. - the farm is at about 4800ft, on top of mountain, slightly sloped hills. - the pasture is public land over 12,000 acres, not shared. The grass is about 80% brome, lush during April - September. No crops seeding is allowed, but hay cropping is okay. Fencing is not possible. - we have heavy snow above 3ft from January till end of March. At that time the cattle will be in the farm buildings, feeded with hay. - the labor cost is neglectable, but there are not many people around. The plan: - buyng small number of Angus heifers from Germany and starting of herd multiplication and improvement over the years reaching over 300 cows. Selling only the steers on 14-18 months age. - after the first stage we are going to cross with terminal sire from Limousin breed and keep fullblood Angus only for replacements. - due to conditions above we are limiting the grain usage to minimum. The questions: - which is really the best maternal beef breed for pasture handling? I know the question is arguable, but anyway what are the oppinions... - how is the grass feeding and finishing affecting the qualities of the meat? There is no "grassfed niche" market here, so the question is about the real qualities. - one of our main problems is the lack of fence. Does Angus cattle have a "flock" instinct (keeping together)? If not, which is the breed with such behavior? Thanks in advance. Sorry if some/all os the questions are discussed before... Edit: total area changed. wrong conversion :oops: [/QUOTE]
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