Steel frame hay shed

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Steel frame hay shed we had put up last spring after strong winds yesterday. Apparently winds turned over a few semi's on I-65 also.
 
When you fix/rebuild, leave a 3 foot gap at the top rear for the air/wind to escape. You will be surprised how well that works for preventing that sort of problem.
 
Hoping so BF.
Dun, I was thinking the same thing. I may just rebuild it pole barn style. Wasn't impressed with how the welds broke on some of the frame.
 
bball":3c5jjisd said:
Hoping so BF.
Dun, I was thinking the same thing. I may just rebuild it pole barn style. Wasn't impressed with how the welds broke on some of the frame.


The first pictures are the remains of a 105 X 42 pole barn hay shed. We replaced it with an all metal with the gap at the rear top. The first one lasted 2 years, the new one has lasted 4-5 years and we've had the same tornadic type winds in that time

http://www.agserver.net/windyridge/OTHER/Wind/wind.htm
 
Wow dun, there wasnt much left of the first one. Guess I can't complain too much. Going to 'recycle' the metal sheeting in the corral and working chute. Was half thinking about leaving both ends wide open, would only hurt a small percentage of the hay
 
wbvs58":2op6hj3i said:
It doesn't seem to have had any real footings.
Ken

Nope, anchored with 3ft auger anchors and rebar, which according to manufacturer, is one of the recommended means of installation. Another option is pouring footers and anchoring to footer (which wouldn't have prevented it from going over). I think dun is right, needs a release for air to move through on back side of shed.
 
M-5":1bsjwjtu said:
You could Build gates out of the tubing

Great suggestion! I been thinking what I was going to do with the tubing all day and couldn't come up with anything but gates would be great,plus I need a few too. Thanks M-5.
 
bball":ybpln34x said:
Wow dun, there wasnt much left of the first one. Guess I can't complain too much. Going to 'recycle' the metal sheeting in the corral and working chute. Was half thinking about leaving both ends wide open, would only hurt a small percentage of the hay
We salvaged a bunch of the metal and lumber. Used it for odds and ends projects, sold some to others that had odds and ends projects. Hauled the mangled stuff to the recycler, didn;t get squat but it was gone. Still have about 16 sheets of 16 foot metal. The insurance company gave us money to pay for the clean up. I couldn;t even get the Amish to do it. Wife and I spent a couple of months doing it ourselves. NO, I didn;t give the insurance company the money back for clean up.
 
bball":3dz51q9t said:







Steel frame hay shed we had put up last spring after strong winds yesterday. Apparently winds turned over a few semi's on I-65 also.


My barns,house, and sheds are all steel buildings rode out Rita and Ike without a scratch.
Mom and dad's old place didn't fair as well.
Must have been a heck of a wind or some thin steel as 90% of the places around here have went
to steel.
 
I can tell you from experience that Dun is 100% right. (Can't believe I said that :lol2: ) I've seen people leave the ends open and wall up the back side of a pole barn. If the wind comes under the barn and hits the back wall it then goes UP. And no matter what type of footer or hurricane straps or anchors or whatever you have, the structure at this point is only as strong as the weakest link. I've rebuilt numerous barns where the posts and trusses were still as good as the day they were put up but the entire top was gone. Leave a gap for the wind to escape and you will most likely get by with minimal to no damage. Sometimes it doesn't matter how it's built, Mother Nature is just too much for it. Good luck with your project bball.
 
JMJ Farms":3q1yg38g said:
I can tell you from experience that Dun is 100% right.
Just proves that even a blind hog finds an acorn once in while
 
dun":2pn6062n said:
CB, that's a pretty fancy hay barn with a bay window!

Oops fat fingered the wrong pic with this new iPad
Dun I was going to delete the other one and for some reason I don't have the delete
feature on the iPad. Or I am to stupid to find it.

 
Caustic Burno":2oimuwmp said:
bball":2oimuwmp said:







Steel frame hay shed we had put up last spring after strong winds yesterday. Apparently winds turned over a few semi's on I-65 also.


My barns,house, and sheds are all steel buildings rode out Rita and Ike without a scratch.
Mom and dad's old place didn't fair as well.
Must have been a heck of a wind or some thin steel as 90% of the places around here have went
to steel.

Gusts between 60-70mph...no hurricane for sure. Turned over 5 semi's out on I-65 found out. I have never had a steel frame structure, but been around them in construction. This wasn't commercial grade frame, but it seemed pretty stout. The frame didn't twist, just several welds gave way it looks like.
 
JMJ Farms":1dicogvi said:
I can tell you from experience that Dun is 100% right. (Can't believe I said that :lol2: ) I've seen people leave the ends open and wall up the back side of a pole barn. If the wind comes under the barn and hits the back wall it then goes UP. And no matter what type of footer or hurricane straps or anchors or whatever you have, the structure at this point is only as strong as the weakest link. I've rebuilt numerous barns where the posts and trusses were still as good as the day they were put up but the entire top was gone. Leave a gap for the wind to escape and you will most likely get by with minimal to no damage. Sometimes it doesn't matter how it's built, Mother Nature is just too much for it. Good luck with your project bball.


Yep, dun is right about an awful lot of stuff on here it seems..Prolly forgot more than we know.
I think wind got up under it and picked front right up..then gusts hit side and just folded it in. Lessen learned in design. Definitely needed a gap.

Thanks. I'm thinking I may just rebuild it myself (boys will be home from college soon=free labor and learning op for them).
 

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