Australian Cattleman":1wgowxll said:Yes I love them. Have been breeding them now for 16 years. Join them to Brahman to breed South Brahvon and to Angus to breed Australis.We also join them to Hereford and Black Baldy. We also breed purebreds,their temperament and weight gains are second to none. The cows have stacks of rich milk.They tolerate various climates. Checkout http://www.southdevonbeefcattle.com.au and look at our web page Chevalley. You will see a cross with the Brahman and some purebreds.
I must admit, until today, I had not investigated the specifics of the South Devon Breed any more than to read a smattering of comments regarding them. Today, I downloaded the information supplied by the breed association and carefully read all the data therein. If what is presented by MARC and the Feedlots denoted, The South Devon Breed is a very high quality Beef Breed and in my opinion justifies any breeder's consideration for cross-breeding heterosis being introduced into their herd. One of the most interesting threads was the section on F-1 Crosses and the increase in gain available through hybrid vigor -and the F-2 crosses offering additional growth benefits. Very interesting reading!BA":3rcz3lxe said:They are a good breed. From your location in NE Texas, the closest breeder is Scott Bollenbach at Kingfisher, OK. His cattle are arguably the best in the breed. You can get info. at http://www.southdevon.com (US Assoc.) Colin was right about the temperment and quality of the breed.
Thanks Cathy. I appreciate your reply. From my experience I would say your experience with the Red Angus bulls is different than mine but I understand your reservations. Good luck with the Devons. I think Bryan gave you knowledgable advise. In my opinion on any seedstock purchase I would first want to know the breeder was a knowledgable , honest person. Seems like Bryan has knowledge of the breeder in this case. That would go a long way with me. Still , I like to look at mothers when buying bulls if I intend to keep heifers.norriscathy":3ppw9n90 said:ollie'":3ppw9n90 said:
We started with black Angus cattle 30 years ago. Blacks just did not do well here. With only 100 or cows we had almost 20 babies on bottles at one time. Calves just not strong. Found one of our Gelbviehs dead with prolapse one morning. Ten minutues later we found a newborn calf chasing the four wheeler looking for something to eat. Love the vigor of the calves. When we first started thing about cross breeding several years ago; we bought 2 red agus bulls from Leachman. The bulls were so wild we could barely get them off the truck. Never could clam them done. Shipped them to the sale barn without ever letting them breed a cow. Angus in general just seem a lot more flighty than Gelbvieh. The vet complains that the Gelbvieh are too calm, he can't get them through the chute fast enough!
I have always liked South Devons. I have seen some different problems but my knowledge is limited to the show stock. I do admire their REA size from what I have seen and I hear they marble well.BA":3gpa9g5p said:Ollie - They are a great cross on Red Angus. We have registered herds of each and cross breed them also. They are as good of full english cross as you can get in my opinion.