Supa Dexta
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Off numbers alone, what do you think of these 2 yearling simmental bulls. And while we're at it - possible worth, off those numbers. This is a test.
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Till-Hill
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Fullblood, Purebred, or % cattle? EPD's change for each they appear to be Fullblood to me and put API and TI on there makes it easier to look at...
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Supa Dexta
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30/32(black) simmentals, and the above only to look at for now.
Till-Hill
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Very similar bulls. Calving ease with some added birthweight if that's something you want. Above average growth and lower milk. Range/Low input kind of bull for keeping back heifers.
A lot of other factors for me to look at before I pull the pin on a bull tho.
A lot of other factors for me to look at before I pull the pin on a bull tho.
smnherf
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I don't know squat about Simmental epds, but looking at them as yearling bulls and I would pretty much have to throw them out and look at the bulls as there just isn't enough differences other than a little CE and REA and they are both in the upper 20% for both traits within the breed. With yearling bulls and the low accuracy of epds, there just isn't enough difference to separate these two bulls on paper.
Now for me I would have to look into how much data that supports those epds. Does one have several hundred head of complete data collected on the sire and maternal grandsire and their lineage or is it simply a mating of extremes where the epds are averaged to come up with the great epd profile supported by several generations of cattle that just have a handful of data collected on them in the previous 3 generations.
Now for me I would have to look into how much data that supports those epds. Does one have several hundred head of complete data collected on the sire and maternal grandsire and their lineage or is it simply a mating of extremes where the epds are averaged to come up with the great epd profile supported by several generations of cattle that just have a handful of data collected on them in the previous 3 generations.
Son of Butch
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acc. numbers are so low
I'd price them about 5-10% above current market average
I'd price them about 5-10% above current market average
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Supa Dexta
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Yes quite similar. I found a deal on them, so I actually bought 3, but one isn't making the cut for health reasons.
Top one is out of a ACC1 HUSTLER 2N, http://www.universalsemensales.com/node/10537
dam sire http://www.buyagro.com/wheatland/468p.html
Bottom one is out of a XCEL EBONYS INFLUENCE, dam sire was just a local bull of no fame.
Top one is out of a ACC1 HUSTLER 2N, http://www.universalsemensales.com/node/10537
dam sire http://www.buyagro.com/wheatland/468p.html
Bottom one is out of a XCEL EBONYS INFLUENCE, dam sire was just a local bull of no fame.
bulldurham
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Should be pretty functional type bulls. Nothing too extreme. Good calving ease w/ top quarter or better growth. W/ a YW in 90's, daughters might mature bigger than you like, depends what you're looking for.
Bull I'm currently using, Shorthorn but same base: CE 4.0 BW 2.5 WW 62 YW 73 MILK 19 MW 50 MCE 2.4
Bull I'm currently using, Shorthorn but same base: CE 4.0 BW 2.5 WW 62 YW 73 MILK 19 MW 50 MCE 2.4
fitz
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I gave my answer on the other board. Sounds like they're yours now. Good luck.
