Thanks Backbone! I think we have similar taste. Injector was last measured around the first of April, just before the sale I bought him in. He measured 39.5cm at that time. I really like a lot of things about him more and more. When I buy a cow or bull I usually find stuff about them I don't like over time and the magic fades on them for me. This bull has been different so far. I like the way he is developing this fall, especially his feet, and docility. I have learned he is an easy keeping sort which is a big plus too. His calves will be the test for me. If they are good enough, I will be sold on this bull. We did collect a few straws on him this summer, but only around 100. There will be some of his calves in a few other herds too, so we may really know something summer 2016. For what its worth, his scrotal EPD is in the top 3% of the breed.