Mahoney Pursley Ranch":23dqpvfx said:Can't figure why this whole show thing is such a touchy subject! Can't commercial cattle people and show people get along or what? Or is it because show people supposedly are ruining the breeds? I am green so please help me understand. I didn't see any names mentioned when the offending cattle people terms were used either. Just my 2 cents,take it or leave it. ;-)
Mahoney Pursley Ranch":2vm4uf8q said:
rgv4":nq7lk0q0 said:Are you referring to money, genetics or what in asking if they bring value to the biz?
Caustic Burno":3o1nvz1b said:rgv4":3o1nvz1b said:Are you referring to money, genetics or what in asking if they bring value to the biz?
Both of the above.
Money: show cattle prices are unrealistic in the real world.
Genetics: most show cattle cannot milk well enough to wean a profitable calf. They are more often than not unsound. And they melt in the pasture when asked to work.
For those that arn't sure:
real world= not spending money on cattle that will not return a profit
profitable calf: weans from the cow at 1/2 the cow's weight with NO creep(see real world) need no meds or special attention, will bring a good $ at the sale.
melt in the pasture: show bulls that are too haevy and un-athletic enough to pasture breed, show heifers turned cows that cannot handle no grain and no fan
ANY questions, direct them to ME
certherfbeef":ufjr8rk3 said:My suggestion: keep the show talk on the show pages and let these good commercial cattlemen share their knowledge.
I'm with you on this one, CB. Count me as a no. Also have to agree with Dun when he said:Caustic Burno":28g67cqf said:I think not
Except, sometimes I think it may be worse than either politics or religion! That said, I sure think people should have the right to show if they want to. Its just a shame that some people think that shows represent the way things are in the real world.dun":28g67cqf said:Showing and non-showing ingender such polarizing opinions that it's almost as bad as politics and religion for starting arguments.
Some of the people who had posts removed from here NEVER cussed anyone out and only replied in a general manner and did not direct thier comments to any one named person. We stand to lose some respected and valued cattlemen over this. I do not disrespect your authority Macon but I ask you,is this fair?M Gravlee":3hpvflll said:To all of you who have caused me to waste my time deleting your posts:
I am sick of this childish bickering. I am going to start banning people with a vengance. Either cut it out or go somewhere else. There are several other cattle boards available elsewhere.
I'm not trying to question you either, Macon. However, I would like to offer up a capitalist idea for you to mull over. How about moving all the posts you delete to a pay-per-view deal so the rest of us can see them. That way you get a little something extra in the tip jar for all your trouble. Got my thinkin' cap on tonight, huh? ;-)Mahoney Pursley Ranch":23ghtgip said:Some of the people who had posts removed from here.........