Scientists warn of high rate of vCJD infection via blood

[flounder]

Greetings,

just what i have been concerned about for years, and what i posted here just last week i.e. 'Friendly Fire', but it was deleted too. but the ramification from this deadly agent via friendly fire is not to be taken lightly. like i said, this goes far far beyond the mad cow hamburger, i.e. secondary transmission via 'friendly fire'. ...TSS


Scientists warn of high rate of vCJD infection via blood
Mon Mar 27, 2006 08:52
70.110.92.4


Subject: Predicting susceptibility and incubation time of human-to-human transmission of vCJD
Date: March 27, 2006 at 6:24 am PST
Lancet Neurology DOI:10.1016/S1474-4422(06)70413-6

Predicting susceptibility and incubation time of human-to-human transmission of vCJD
MT Bishop a, P Hart b, L Aitchison b, HN Baybutt b, C Plinston b, V Thomson b, NL Tuzi b, MW Head a, JW Ironside a, RG Will a and JC Manson b

Summary
Background
Identification of possible transmission of variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD) via blood transfusion has caused concern over spread of the disease within the human population. We aimed to model iatrogenic spread to enable a comparison of transmission efficiencies of vCJD and bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) and an assessment of the effect of the codon-129 polymorphism on human susceptibility.

Methods
Mice were produced to express human or bovine prion protein (PrP) by direct replacement of the mouse PrP gene. Since the human PrP gene has variation at codon 129, with MM, VV, and MV genotypes, three inbred lines with an identical genetic background were produced to express human PrP with the codon-129 MM, MV, and VV genotypes. Mice were inoculated with BSE or vCJD and assessed for clinical and pathological signs of disease.

Findings
BSE was transmitted to the bovine line but did not transmit to the human lines. By contrast, vCJD was transmitted to all three human lines with different pathological characteristics for each genotype and a gradation of transmission efficiency from MM to MV to VV.

Interpretation
Transmission of BSE to human beings is probably restricted by the presence of a significant species barrier. However, there seems to be a substantially reduced barrier for human-to-human transmission of vCJD. Moreover, all individuals, irrespective of codon-129 genotype, could be susceptible to secondary transmission of vCJD through routes such as blood transfusion. A lengthy preclinical disease is predicted by these models, which may represent a risk for further disease transmission and thus a significant public-health issue.

Affiliations

a. National CJD Surveillance Unit, Bryan Matthews Building, Western General Hospital, Edinburgh, UK
b. Institute for Animal Health, Neuropathogenesis Unit, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, UK

Correspondence to: Prof J C Manson, Institute for Animal Health, Neuropathogenesis Unit, Ogston Building, King's Buildings, West Mains Road, Edinburgh EH9 3JF, UK


http://www.thelancet.com/journals/laneu ... isEOP=true


27 March 2006
Of mice and men... and vCJD
Destination Journal: The Lancet Neurology

Variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (vCJD) has become a serious public-health concern in Europe, especially in the UK, since it was first described in 1996. This new prion disease in human beings, acquired by ingestion of food contaminated by the bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE) agent, has raised new questions not only about food safety, but also about the possibility that human prion diseases could be transmitted from human to human. .....



http://www.thelancet.com/journals/laneu ... isEOP=true



Scientists warn of high rate of vCJD infection

Polly Curtis, health correspondent
Monday March 27, 2006
The Guardian


A "significant level" of the population could be unknowingly infected with variant CJD, according to scientists whose study reveals the disease to be more easily transmitted than previously thought.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/bse/article/0 ... 97,00.html



Scots team finds dormant CJD could emerge to claim many more lives
LOUISE GRAY
New study claims vCJD may lie dormant without symptoms
Disease may also be contracted by blood transfusion
Fears that underlying vCJD may lead to second wave of deaths
Key quote
"You cannot rule out the possibility there may be some effect of BSE on people who have so far shown no effect" - PROF HUGH PENNINGTON

Story in full FAR more people could be at risk of contracting the human form of mad cow disease than previously thought after new evidence emerged that the condition could lie dormant for years before developing.

A long incubation period for the disease, together with an ability to pass it on through blood transfusions and surgical instruments, has the potential to create a "significant public health issue", scientists from Edinburgh said.




http://news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=470922006



DAILY TELEGRAPH - More people at risk of vCJD say researchers (27/03/2006)
Many more people may be at risk of contracting Creutzfeldt Jakob Disease (vCJD) than previously thought, according to new research.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... altop.html


THE TIMES - Hidden CJD is new threat to thousands
By Nigel Hawkes, Health Editor
THOUSANDS of people in Britain may be infected with variant CJD, the human equivalent of mad cow disease, without knowing it, research suggests.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, ... 95,00.html

THE INDEPENDENT - 'Silent killer vCJD is more widespread than thought'
By Jeremy Laurance, Health Editor, 27 March 2006
The incurable brain disease vCJD, the human form of BSE (mad cow disease), may be widespread and advancing undetected, scientists say.

http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health ... 353862.ece

BBC - vCJD transmission 'risk for all'
Everyone could be susceptible to vCJD infection via blood transfusions but their genes could determine how it will affect them, a study suggests.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4841078.stm


TSS

 

[flounder]

TURNTHATCOWLOOSEMAW WRITES;

BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH shutup with your bull crap rhetoric already noone wants to hear it. Your idiocy obviously knows no bounds.

_________________
I saw this on a church sign once it read.... GIT-R-Done Fer God.
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sadly maw, this is not rhetoric, it is real, and for the life of me, as a producer of beef in some way i assume, i cannot believe you think it is rhetoric. this is exactly what has been wrong here in the USA. it's like dumb and dumber raising beef here.
but i suppose this will get deleted as well, since i have no right of opinion here, even if they are facts. do any of you not go to the hospital and get blood and or medical procedures done?

no maw, i am not going anywhere unless i am banned, and i am not giving them any reason to ban me. you can slam me all you want, call me whatever you want, fact is, i am a consumer of your products, and have just as much right in this debate as anyone here. in fact, there are some writing me from this site thanking me for the info. not everyone has there head in the sand. it's folks like you that are killing your industry.

now, i will just give you (well, not you, you don't seem to care), but i will give others a taste of what i speak of right here in the USA. now this is just 2006 and just a taste of it, i dont want to use up too much valuable space here;


RECALLS AND FIELD CORRECTIONS: BIOLOGICS -- CLASS I

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PRODUCT
Human Tissue for Transplantation, Recall # B-0432-6:
a) Tricortical Wedge (R) 1.5 x 2.5 cm,
Freeze Dried Irradiated;
b) Tricortical Wedge ( L ) 1.7 x 3.0 cm,
Fresh Frozen Irradiated;
c) Cancellous Crushed 60.0 cc, Freeze Dried,
Irradiated;
d) Cancellous Crushed 30.0 cc Freeze Dried,
Irradiated;
e) Achilles Tendon OA ( R ) Fresh Frozen
Irradiated;
f) Achilles Tendon OA ( L ) Fresh Frozen
Irradiated;
g) Lumbar;
h) Cancellous Crushed 30.0 cc Fresh Frozen,
Irradiated
CODE
a) Tissue 04091-002;
b) Tissue 04113-003;
c) Tissues 04091-008, 04101-008, 04103-002,
04103-003, 04105-003;
d) Tissues 04091-005, 04091-006, 04091-007,
04101-006, 04101-007, 04102-004, 04102-005,
04104-003, 04104-004, 04104-005, 04105-002,
04109-003, 04109-004, 04120-004, 04124-003,
04124-004, 04138-002, 04138-003, 04140-002,
04143-002, 04143-003, 04146-001, 04152-001;
e) Tissues 04101-003, 04123-004;
f) Tissues 04101-004, 04123-003;
g) Tissues 03049-001, 03051-001, 04091-001,
04102-001, 04103-001, 04104-001, 04105-001,
04106-001, 04107-001, 04108-001, 04109-001,
04113-001, 04120-001, 04122-001, 04123-001,
04124-001;
h) Tissue 04108-002
RECALLING FIRM/MANUFACTURER
Recalling Firm: Central Texas Regional Blood & Tissue Center, Austin, TX, by telephone on October 4, 2005, and by letter dated October 11, 2005.
Manufacturer: Biomedical Tissue Services, Fort Lee, NJ, firm initiated recall is ongoing.
REASON
Human tissues, procured from donors without adequate donor eligibility determinations, were distributed.
VOLUME OF PRODUCT IN COMMERCE
51 allografts
DISTRIBUTION
TX and CO

PRODUCT
Human Corneal Tissues for Transplantation, Recall # B-0380-6
CODE
Tissues: CI044108 OD and CI044108 OS
RECALLING FIRM/MANUFACTURER
Michigan Eye Bank, Ann Arbor, MI, by letter dated November 22, 2005, and by facsimile dated November 28, 2005. Firm initiated recall is complete.
REASON
Human Corneas, collected from an ineligible donor, were distributed.
VOLUME OF PRODUCT IN COMMERCE
2 tissues
DISTRIBUTION
MI, CA and Germany

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PRODUCT
a) Red Blood Cells Leukocytes Reduced,
Recall # B-0617-6;
b) Red Blood Cells (Apheresis) Leukocytes Reduced
(distributed as split product), Recall # B-0618-6;
c) Platelets Leukocytes Reduced, Recall # B-0619-6;
d) Fresh Frozen Plasma, Recall # B-0620-6;
e) Cryoprecipitated AHF, Recall # B-0621-6;
f) Plasma Cryoprecipitate Reduced, Recall # B-0622-6;
g) Recovered Plasma, Recall # B-0623-6
CODE
a) Unit numbers: 1136792, 1040212, 1011245;
b) Unit numbers: 1048247-1, 1048247-2;
c) Unit numbers: 1040212, 1011245;
d) Unit number: 1136792;
e) Unit numbers: 1040212, 1011245;
f) Unit number: 1040212;
g) Unit number: 1011245
RECALLING FIRM/MANUFACTURER
Hoxworth Blood Center, Cincinnati, OH, by letter dated September 6, 2005. Firm initiated recall is complete.
REASON
Blood products, collected from a donor considered to be at increased risk for variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (vCJD), were distributed.
VOLUME OF PRODUCT IN COMMERCE
12 units
DISTRIBUTION
OH and FL

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END OF ENFORCEMENT REPORT FOR MARCH 1, 2006

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PRODUCT
Recovered Plasma, Recall # B-0643-6
CODE
Unit numbers: R170537, R165863, and R158308
RECALLING FIRM/MANUFACTURER
Puget Sound Blood Center, Seattle, WA, by facsimile on October 7, 2003. Firm initiated recall is complete.
REASON
Blood products, which were collected from an unsuitable donor based on risk factors for variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (vCJD), were distributed.
VOLUME OF PRODUCT IN COMMERCE
3 units
DISTRIBUTION
Austria


END OF ENFORCEMENT REPORT FOR FEBRUARY 22, 2006

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PRODUCT
a) Product is 1.0 cc Regenaform® RT. SINGLE PATIENT
USE ONLY. Recall # Z-0481-06;
b) OPTEFORM Allografts of varying sizes. SINGLE PATIENT
USE ONLY. Recall # Z-0482-06;
c) Product is OPTEFORM Allograft Paste of varying sizes.
SINGLE PATIENT USE ONLY. Recall # Z-0483-06;
d) OPTEFORM® RT Moldable Allograft of varying sizes.
SINGLE PATIENT USE ONLY. Recall # Z-0484-06;
e) Osteofil + RT Allograft Paste in varying sizes.
SINGLE PATIENT USE ONLY. Recall # Z-0485-06;
f) Osteofil Allograft Paste (Bio) of varying sizes.
SINGLE PATIENT USE ONLY. Recall # Z-0486-06;
g) Osteofil IC Syringeable of varying sizes. SINGLE
PATIENT USE ONLY. Recall # 0487-06;
h) Osteofil ICM Moldable Strip of varying sizes.
SINGLE PATIENT USE ONLY. Recall # Z-0488-06;
i) Osteofil RT, ICM Allograft Paste of varying sizes.
SINGLE PATIENT USE ONLY. Recall # Z-0489-06;
j) OSTEOFIL® DBM Paste of varying sizes. SINGLE
PATIENT USE ONLY. Recall # Z-0490-06;
k) OsteoPack 3 FZ 22cc. SINGLE PATIENT USE ONLY.
Recall # Z-0491-06;
l) Regenafil IC. SINGLE PATIENT USE ONLY.
Recall # Z-0492-06;
m) REGENAFORM RT Allograft Paste, 1cc. SINGLE
PATIENT USE ONLY. Recall # Z-0493-06;
n) Product is REGENAFORM® Allograft Moldable Blocks,
of varying sizes. SINGLE PATIENT USE ONLY.
Recall # Z-0494-06;
o) Product is RTI Allograft Paste of varying sizes.
SINGLE PATIENT USE ONLY. Recall # Z-0495-06;
p) Product is REGENAFIL® Allograft Paste, Syringe,
0.5cc. SINGLE PATIENT USE ONLY. Recall # 0496-06;
q) Product is 1.0cc flowable paste from donor
approved for distribution in Italy. SINGLE
PATIENT USE ONLY. Recall # Z-0497-06;
r) Product is OPTEFIL Allograft Paste of varying
sizes. SINGLE PATIENT USE ONLY. Recall
# Z-0498-06;
s) Product is OPTEFIL Allograft Paste, Syringe
of varying sizes. SINGLE PATIENT USE ONLY.
Recall # Z-0499-06;
t) Product is OPTEFORM® Allograft Full Disc,
5 x 90mm, 32cc, Frozen. SINGLE PATIENT USE
ONLY, Recall # Z-0500-06;
u) Product is 2.0 cc Opteform® RT. SINGLE
PATIENT USE ONLY. Recall # Z-0501-06
CODE
2879130 2879131 2879132 2879133 2879134 2879135 2879136

snip...too long and too many recalls to list here...tss

RECALLING FIRM/MANUFACTURER
Regeneration Technologies, Inc., Alachua, FL, by letter on October 14, 2005. Firm initiated recall is ongoing.
REASON
The tissue was collected from donors for whom there is no verifiable identity or consent. The medical records and social histories of the donors cannot be ascertained. The devices which incorporate these donor bone tissues undergo processing, including sterilization, which has been validated to inactivate and/or remove all viral diseases for which human tissue donors are tested.
VOLUME OF PRODUCT IN COMMERCE
5,320
DISTRIBUTION
Nationwide and Internationally

END OF ENFORCEMENT REPORT FOR FEBRUARY 15, 2006

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_______________________________
PRODUCT
Source Plasma, Recall # B-0584-6
CODE
Units VL53767, ZZ031076, ZZ030881, ZZ03046, VL151413, VL151144, VL50837
RECALLING FIRM/MANUFACTURER
BioLife Plasma Services LP, Shreveport, LA, by facsimile dated October 6, 2003. Firm initiated recall is complete.
REASON
Source Plasma, collected from a donor who was at increased risk for variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (vCJD), was distributed.
VOLUME OF PRODUCT IN COMMERCE
7 units
DISTRIBUTION
NC

END OF ENFORCEMENT REPORT FOR FEBRUARY 1, 2006

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_______________________________
PRODUCT
Red Blood Cells, Recall # B-0552-6
CODE
Unit number: 4426304
RECALLING FIRM/MANUFACTURER
Florida's Blood Center, Inc., St. Petersburg, FL, by facsimile on July 8, 2005. Firm initiated recall is complete.
REASON
Blood product, collected from a donor who may have been at increased risk for new variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (nvCJD), was distributed.
VOLUME OF PRODUCT IN COMMERCE
1 unit
DISTRIBUTION
FL

END OF ENFORCEMENT REPORT FOR JANUARY 25, 2006

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RECALLS AND FIELD CORRECTIONS: BIOLOGICS -- CLASS I

_______________________________
PRODUCT
Human Tissue for Transplantation, Recall # B-0322-6
a) Alloquent CC Allograft (8, 9 & 10 mm);
b) Achilles Tendon;
c) Cancellous Bone 4-10 mm (15 & 30 cc);
d) Patella Tendon-Hemi;
e) Iliac Crest Wedge (14-17mm, 11-13mm,
<10mm, and 18+mm);
f) Tibialis Tendon
CODE
a) Code: BS30-4008, BS30-4009, BS30-4010;
b) Code: LATM;
c) Code: LCISM & LCIPM;
d) Code: LTTM;
e) Code: LIWXLM, LIWLM, LIWMM, LIWSM;
f) Code: LTTM
RECALLING FIRM/MANUFACTURER
Recalling Firm: Lost Mountain Tissue Bank, Kennesaw, GA, by letters dated October 12, and October 21, 2005.
Manufacturer: Biomedical Tissue Services, Ltd., Fort Lee, NJ. Firm initiated recall is ongoing.
REASON
Human tissues, procured from donors without adequate donor eligibility determinations, were distributed.
VOLUME OF PRODUCT IN COMMERCE
283 tissues
DISTRIBUTION
Nationwide and Turkey

_______________________________
PRODUCT
PUROS Allograft Bone;
Suspend Tutoplast Processed Fascia Lata,
Recall # B-0375-6
CODE
a) U00000000045293 U00000000045294 U00000000045295


snip...

b) BM03L11421A012031504 BM03L11821A012031504

snip...again, too many recalls of this product to list here...tss

RECALLING FIRM/MANUFACTURER
Recalling Firm: Tutogen Medical, Inc., Alachua, FL, by telephone, facsimile and letter on October 14, 2005 and by letter dated October 24, 2005.
Responsible Firm: Biomedical Tissue Services, Ltd., Fort Lee, NJ. Firm initiated recall is ongoing.
REASON
Human Tissues, procured from donors without adequate donor eligibility determinations, were distributed.
VOLUME OF PRODUCT IN COMMERCE
a) 5,676 allografts;
b) 48 allografts
DISTRIBUTION
Nationwide, and Canada


_______________________________
PRODUCT
a) Red Blood Cells, Leukocytes
Reduced, Recall # B-0492-6;
b) Recovered Plasma, Recall # B-0497-6
CODE
a) and b) Unit number: 4101212
RECALLING FIRM/MANUFACTURER
Northwest Florida Blood Center, Inc., Pensacola, FL, by telephone and facsimile on March 7, 2003. Firm initiated recall is complete.
REASON
Blood products, collected from an unsuitable donor due to a history of travel to an area considered at increased risk of exposure to variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (nvCJD), were distributed.
VOLUME OF PRODUCT IN COMMERCE
2 units
DISTRIBUTION
FL

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END OF ENFORCEMENT REPORT FOR JANUARY 18, 2006

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PRODUCT
Source Plasma, Recall # B-0391-6
CODE
Unit number: 7030260750
RECALLING FIRM/MANUFACTURER
ZLB Bioplasma, Inc., San Antonio, TX, by facsimile and telephone on September 29, 2003. Firm initiated recall is complete.
REASON
Blood product, which was collected from a donor who was deferred due to risk factors associated with variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (vCJD) travel, was distributed.
VOLUME OF PRODUCT IN COMMERCE
1 unit
DISTRIBUTION
FL

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______________________________
PRODUCT
a) Red Blood Cells, Leukocytes Reduced
Recall # B-0456-6;
b) Recovered Plasma, Recall # B-0457-6
CODE
a) Unit number: 06FR39967;
b) Unit numbers: 06FR37676, 06FR39967
RECALLING FIRM/MANUFACTURER
American National Red Cross, Southern California Region, Pomona, California, by telephone on June 2, 2002, and by letter dated, June 20, 2002, and by facsimile transmission dated June 19, 2002. Firm initiated recall is complete.
REASON
Blood products, collected from a donor who was at increased risk of variant Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease (vCJD), were distributed.
VOLUME OF PRODUCT IN COMMERCE
3 units
DISTRIBUTION
CA and Switzerland

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END OF ENFORCEMENT REPORT FOR JANUARY 4, 2006

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THE END...

I LOVE THE DIXIE CHICKS AND SO DOES GOD, THEY WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG...TSS

 

[Karl]

I'm not seeing the relavence of all this, Could you maybe summerize it.

 

[flounder]

karl wrote;

I'm not seeing the relavence of all this, Could you maybe summerize it.

=============================

greetings karl,

i will try and summerize the best i can. consumption of TSE tainted products i.e. in this case bse i.e. 'subclinical' incubating the TSE/BSE agent via consumption and then transmitting via 'friendly fire' via a multitude of proven routes and sources via the medical and surgical arena. in other words, IF you eat some TSE tainted products and then before ever going clinical and only by incubating this agent, you go and have surgery or donate blood and pass this agent to other humans and not even know you did this. the most dusturbing study i have seen to date, and probably one of the oldest, and this is with the infamous sCJD's (even more important), was from the late Dr. Gibbs, you need to read this twice to get the full effects. i know some of you, if not most of you think i am either crazy and or from some anti-beef organization, but this is simply not the case, i am only here to try and educate some of you folks on something i wish i had never ever seen and or heard of, and i bet now so do you ;-) i know everyones mentality here is on the ukbsenvCJD only theory, but ponder this, if BSE came from the transmission of scrapie infected sheep via rendering and feed, which strain was it, there are over 20 documented strains of scrapie, and they all do not act the same via transmission studies. back to friendly fire, don't want to loose you, but here is the short version of the study i was speaking of ;


1: J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry 1994 Jun;57(6):757-8

Transmission of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease to a chimpanzee by electrodes contaminated during neurosurgery.

Gibbs CJ Jr, Asher DM, Kobrine A, Amyx HL, Sulima MP, Gajdusek DC.

Laboratory of Central Nervous System Studies, National Institute of Neurological Disorders and Stroke, National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD 20892.

Stereotactic multicontact electrodes used to probe the cerebral cortex of a middle aged woman with progressive dementia were previously implicated in the accidental transmission of Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease (CJD) to two younger patients. The diagnoses of CJD have been confirmed for all three cases. More than two years after their last use in humans, after three cleanings and repeated sterilisation in ethanol and formaldehyde vapour, the electrodes were implanted in the cortex of a chimpanzee. Eighteen months later the animal became ill with CJD. This finding serves to re-emphasise the potential danger posed by reuse of instruments contaminated with the agents of spongiform encephalopathies, even after scrupulous attempts to clean them.

PMID: 8006664 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/quer ... t=Abstract



were not talking about the common cold here folks and let me get back to old frenchie here cause i dont want to loose him either, but yes, it may seem to date that more folks die from car wrecks, i concur :shock: but again, and this time the short version only, don't want to take up to much space here, but my mom did not die in a car wreck, she died from the Heidenhain Vairant of CJD, confirmed. my neighbors mother died from cjd also exactly to the day my mom did, one year previously, so i am very well aware of all forms of CJD. bottom line is the incubation is very long, but it's catching up. the disturbing factor of this mathematical formula is that in the USA, it is still amplifying and spreading, via different species and this is the most disturbing factor. no, science has not answered all the questions, but many have been answered, and those answers have been ignored for years and years. i dont blame you guys........and gals. it's the usda/aphis/fsis/fda/cdc/nih et al i blame.

short version only, i will not mention the nightmare in NY now with all that tissue and organs that were stolen from the dead without any sort of, never mind that :roll: you may not think this has nothing to do with you folks, but it does and i cannot explain it here in one paragraph, but once you have been exposed via consumption, you can pass the agent and not even know it, expose and kill others, and you may never even know it while being the carrier. Ladies and Gentleman, that is disturbing to me. ...


http://www.mad-cow.org/dec99_news.html#bbb


but yes, frenchie is correct as far as the documentation of the dead from TSE and all there proven routes and sources compared to car wrecks and the dead from them. dead from car wrecks are documented on the spot, the dead from human TSE, some never get documented, its not reportable but in only about half the states, and that is just recently and that in some cases is just in a certain age group, like 55 and under. one of the most rediculous things myself and others familiar with this disease have ever heard. sCJD kills much faster in most circumstances than the nvCJD, both can be transmitted via the medical and surgical arena, so why is the concern only with the nvCJD??? does not make any sense, especially if you look at this;

BASE in cattle in Italy of Identification of a
second bovine amyloidotic spongiform encephalopathy: Molecular
similarities with sporadic

Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease


http://www.pnas.org/cgi/content/abstract/0305777101v1


NOW, you ask, terry, what the hell does this have to do with the USA? very simple, and i hope i have not lost you by now, and i will spare you the documents proving this, but let me know if you would like to see them again, but the USA scrapie transmission studies of mission texas did not produce any uk bse like tse in cattle, nope, it was atypical, and how could it? the usa has been rendering and feeding to animals for human consumption, for decades, a recipe like no other, even more tainted than the UK, the USA has been rendering and feeding back to animals for human and animal consumption, not only scrapie infected sheep, but also CWD infected deer and elk, and to a much smaller extent, TME infected mink. so, the USA is in a very unique situation. ...

kind regards,
terry

 

[Oldtimer]

Terry- If this is found to truly work it may help out in the surgical field- then maybe eventually even in the slaughter plants....At least this is a sign that someone in the private world is working on lowering the risk, rather than the government overview of sticking their heads in the sand- and denial...

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Iowa company to make disinfectant against Mad Cow disease

by Stella Shaffer

An Iowa bio-products maker has been approved to make a disinfectant used in the fight against Mad Cow disease. Ted Carlson's a quality control manager at the Cedar Rapids plant operated by Genencor which has made bio-products in Cedar Rapids for about a dozen years now. They mainly make industrial enzymes, used in making the ethanol put into your gas, manufacturing the beer or detergent you use, even in the making of artificial snow.

Carlson says he'd guarantee everyone's used one of their products without even knowing it. In the case of Mad Cow, tiny biological agents called prions are blamed for spreading the brain-wasting disease. Meat products contaminated with Mad Cow have been linked to more than 150 human deaths worldwide, mostly in Britain, from a brain-wasting syndrome known as Creutzfeldt-Jakob Disease.

The Cedar Rapids plant has been approved to manufacture "Prionzyme", a new product used to disinfect medical instruments and prevent prions from spreading the disease.

The manufacturing site in Cedar Rapids will have to do more documentation and record-keeping. He says the certification's done so the product can be expected to do what it's supposed to do, and be not only safe for people using it in providing medical care, but also safe for the patient.

The product will be made at first for customers in the medical field. They're targeting medical companies that'll use it to disinfect instruments used in "invasive surgery"...working on your central nervous system, eyes or tonsils, typical areas where the prions have been shown to accumulate within the body.

Later, the line will be developed to offer products that'll sterilize other instruments -- and equipment in meat processing plants. Carlson says it's exciting to take materials made here in Iowa and Midwest, use their fermentation processes, and create products that can be used for everything from filling your car with gas to brewing beer to cleaning medical instruments with what he says it the "most effective of any technique out there."

At first the United Kingdom will be the target market, and production of the Prionzyme will begin once British customers for the product are lined up. If demand is strong, Carlson says the Cedar Rapids Genencor plant could expand its workforce, though that's now happening yet.

 

[flounder]

Subject: SEAC DRAFTS MINUTES 91st meeting held on 24th February 2006 ITEM
5 – MEDICAL IMPLANTS CONTAINING BOVINE MATERIAL OF USA ORIGIN BSE GBR III
Date: March 29, 2006 at 9:44 am PST

SPONGIFORM ENCEPHALOPATHY ADVISORY COMMITTEE

Draft minutes of the open session of the 91st meeting held on 24th

February 2006


snip...


Members agreed that this third case indicates that there is

relatively high risk of transmission of vCJD by blood

transfusion. ...

snip...


ITEM 5 – MEDICAL IMPLANTS CONTAINING BOVINE MATERIAL

(SEAC 91/2)

12. The Chair explained that the Medicines and Healthcare products

Regulatory Agency (MHRA) asked the committee to consider

issues around potential BSE risks to humans from medical

implants using bovine material from USA animals.


snip...


http://www.seac.gov.uk/minutes/draft91.pdf


Subject: BSE--U.S. 50 STATE CONFERENCE CALL Jan. 9, 2001
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2001 16:49:00 -0800
From: "Terry S. Singeltary Sr."
Reply-To: Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy
To: [email protected]

######### Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy
#########

Greetings List Members,

I was lucky enough to sit in on this BSE conference
call today and even managed to ask a question.
that is when the trouble started.

I submitted a version of my notes to
Sandra Blakeslee of the New York Times,
whom seemed very upset, and rightly
so.

"They tell me it is a closed meeting and
they will release whatever information
they deem fit. Rather infuriating."

and i would have been doing just fine,
until i asked my question. i was surprised
my time to ask a question so quick.

(understand, these are taken from my notes for now.
the spelling of names and such could be off.)

[host Richard Barns]
and now a question from Terry S. Singeltary of
CJD Watch.

[TSS]
yes, thank you,
U.S. cattle, what kind of guarantee can you
give for serum or tissue donor herds?

[no answer, you could hear in the back ground,
mumbling and 'we can't. have him ask the question
again.]

[host Richard]
could you repeat the question?

[TSS]
U.S. cattle, what kind of guarantee can you
give for serum or tissue donor herds?

[not sure whom ask this]
what group are you with?

[TSS]
CJD Watch, my Mom died from hvCJD and we are
tracking CJD world-wide.

[not sure who is speaking]
could you please disconnect Mr. Singeltary

[TSS]
you are not going to answer my question?

[not sure whom speaking]
NO

from this point, i was still connected, got to listen
and tape the whole conference. at one point someone
came on, a woman, and ask again;

[unknown woman]
what group are you with?

[TSS]
CJD Watch and my Mom died from hvCJD
we are trying to tract down CJD and other
human TSE's world wide. i was invited to
sit in on this from someone inside the USDA/APHIS
and that is why i am here. do you intend on banning
me from this conference now?

at this point the conference was turned back up,
and i got to finish listening. They never answered
or even addressed my one question, or even addressed
the issue. BUT, i will try and give you a run-down
for now, of the conference.

IF i were another Country, I would take heed to my
notes, BUT PLEASE do not depend on them. ask for
transcript from;

[email protected]
301-827-6906

he would be glad to give you one ;-)

Rockville Maryland,
Richard Barns Host


SNIP...END...TSS

============================================


Freas, William

Monday, January 08,200l 3:03 PM

Consultants Staff January 2001 Meeting (short version)

Last, but not least. The illegal/legal harvesting of body parts and tissues
will come back to haunt you. Maybe not morally, but due to NO background
checks and human TSEs, again it will continue to spread.

Stupidity, Ignorance and Greed is what fuels this disease. You must stop all
of this and ACT AT ONCE...


http://www.fda.gov/ohrms/dockets/ac/01/ ... 1s2_09.pdf


TSS