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same calf still subject of pneumonia
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<blockquote data-quote="larryshoat" data-source="post: 629754" data-attributes="member: 6773"><p>angie I think your statement in red explains the dilema with the dex, perfectly, when I need immediate relief from symptoms there is nothing else that works as well .</p><p></p><p>My recomendation of MLV for treatment of BRD in cattle is easily the most controversial thing that I have ever done, it always brings me grief, but I believe in it so I continue saying it .</p><p> 1. Modern vaccines are so much better than what we used, even 10 years ago .</p><p> 2. MLV produces interferon to help the calf fight the disease . There is some stress involved, but I don't ever recall a calf that I thought died from a dose of Bovi-Shield 5 . If we can't get the immune system of the calf to take over we will never win . In the case of this calf he has had the very best antibiotics we have with little result, why ?, all too often I think we ask, what's wrong with the medicine ? when we should be asking, what's wrong with the calf ? I think it always leads us back to the immune system of the calf . I always say that when give calves a dose of MLV that we're reminding his immune system of what we want it to do .</p><p>3. I discovered that this works by giving left over doses of vaccine to the sorted out calves that usually ended up dying, we found that they got better, really just by accident and as time went on I became bolder and bolder with my use of MLV . I always treat sick calves with Bovi-Shiel 5 Gold .</p><p></p><p>I don't expect anybody to go against their vet, but I find in private conversations with cattle vets, off the record, that they are not as opposed to the idea of using MLV for treatment as we might think .</p><p>I think that this is a topic we will be discussing for a very long time .</p><p></p><p>Larry</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="larryshoat, post: 629754, member: 6773"] angie I think your statement in red explains the dilema with the dex, perfectly, when I need immediate relief from symptoms there is nothing else that works as well . My recomendation of MLV for treatment of BRD in cattle is easily the most controversial thing that I have ever done, it always brings me grief, but I believe in it so I continue saying it . 1. Modern vaccines are so much better than what we used, even 10 years ago . 2. MLV produces interferon to help the calf fight the disease . There is some stress involved, but I don't ever recall a calf that I thought died from a dose of Bovi-Shield 5 . If we can't get the immune system of the calf to take over we will never win . In the case of this calf he has had the very best antibiotics we have with little result, why ?, all too often I think we ask, what's wrong with the medicine ? when we should be asking, what's wrong with the calf ? I think it always leads us back to the immune system of the calf . I always say that when give calves a dose of MLV that we're reminding his immune system of what we want it to do . 3. I discovered that this works by giving left over doses of vaccine to the sorted out calves that usually ended up dying, we found that they got better, really just by accident and as time went on I became bolder and bolder with my use of MLV . I always treat sick calves with Bovi-Shiel 5 Gold . I don't expect anybody to go against their vet, but I find in private conversations with cattle vets, off the record, that they are not as opposed to the idea of using MLV for treatment as we might think . I think that this is a topic we will be discussing for a very long time . Larry [/QUOTE]
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