Running Brahman and Longhorns together?

[Brute 23]

You want more unsolicited advice or do I have to stick to the question asked? Screw it... I'm going to do it any ways.

Ask all these people telling you to mix them how you get a LH baby out of a LH cow and a F1 Braford calf out of a Brahman cow when the herd is mixed. They must clearly know some thing I don't.

Our F1 breeding program, in their own pasture of course.

 

[M.Magis]

Because we have been on this board a long time and some one who doesn't know if they can run certain breeds together (which is ok) likely does not know stocking rates in their area. We have seen the heartbreak 1,000 times when people find out their 100ac property is in a 20ac/head area. Especially when all those LH and Braford heifers turn in to BIG cows with calves on their side and you are wanting to hold and develope animals for a breeding program. It gets tight.. quick.

We are just trying to help people with things we learned the hard way.

Plus, not telling people things for the perception of being "nice" is actually a sign you don't care... not the opposite.

And again, all she asked was if they could coexist. For all we know they only wanted two animals. If you ask someone what time it is, you don't need them to explain how a clock works.

 

[Brute 23]

And again, all she asked was if they could coexist. For all we know they only wanted two animals. If you ask someone what time it is, you don't need them to explain how a clock works.

How do you have a LH and F1 breeding program with 2 animals?

She has confirmed they are going for 20 already soooo....... I think we read the situation right.

 

[Bedlingtond]

You want more unsolicited advice or do I have to stick to the question asked? Screw it... I'm going to do it any ways.

Ask all these people telling you to mix them how you get a LH baby out of a LH cow and a F1 Braford calf out of a Brahman cow when the herd is mixed. They must clearly know some thing I don't.

Our F1 breeding program, in their own pasture of course.
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Unsolicited advice is part of the fun! No I hear that and yes, they are going to have to be in separate pastures for part of the year anyways, for breeding.

 

[Brute 23]

Unsolicited advice is part of the fun! No I hear that and yes, they are going to have to be in separate pastures for part of the year anyways, for breeding.

Ya running them as young heifers together probably won't matter. As you know, definitely have to separate to breed. You will have to judge how they handle together when it's time to work them or feed them or things like that. Other than the potential physical issues with horns vs no horns the two different breed type can have different personalities (best word I can come up with) that may need their own accommodations.

As an example, Brahmans typically like the ball up and move together, some times very quickly. You dont want to push on them. You want every thing lined up for them and show them where to go. When they decide to go, you don't want any thing to interfere with that. If you mix them with English cattle that separate out, move slow, and have to be pushed you end up with a mess. You have Brahamn butts with tails flying like zebras out front and a Hereford in back trying to lick your working stick. Or, the Brahmans want to pile in a chute together and there is a Hereford in the back trying to eat grass. Now the Brahmans changed their mind and are coming back on you and you may no get another shot at it.

The Brahmans habits will likely change from heifers to cows.

You may get some dog gentle pets and have zero issues... but you may not. They will be the exception, not the norm.

That's my personal, real life experience, and some, on the subject.

 

[Ky hills]

Brahman and Longhorns have been run together, as I have one of the results of that cross.
We like to have some longhorn or Brahman influenced cows in the herd for protection against predators. We have have had no real issues with having a horned cow or two in the herd, however as someone else, said I believe it was Farmerjan that they weren't sure how it would be with a majority horned cattle in with a few without horns.
As Brute23 said different types of cattle move and work differently. We had a longhorn cross cow that would get in the middle of the works when trying to work cattle. She'd just stand and not budge and nothing else would go by her.
It was best to try to sort her off beforehand if possible and just let her go back out.