jcummins":2ulg6pkw said:
I'm forming the opinion….
There is a much better solution as to spears, and I need to cut off what I have and get the right thing.
These bales are extremely tight.
The trailer aids in the problem….not gripping the bottom of the bale.
I'm using what I got though the feeding season, since dropping the bale on the ground or inside a feeder isn't where I'm having the problem. Makes one wonder why they built the spear the way they did in the first place.
Lots of different bale types - a soft core bale would work well with your system
As for the trailer - if it is wood or it is sheeted or it is metal bars they are slippery.
If you have steel mesh you will find the bale grabs and sticks - all have advanages and disadvantages.
If you pick the bale up near the top of the bale it will stretch the outside edge and make disengagement easier.
The problem you are now indicating is quite different from what many of us initially understood.
Backing out can sometimes be assisted by the way you pick a bale up. A tight bale can be attacked with a "slightly" down angle on the spear and scooping with a bucket curl rather than a straight lift - dropping the loader arms as you advance into the bale causes the spear to drop into the bale - this will often losen the bale enough to make off loading a bit easier - the loader arm weight makes the spear entry point a bit larger.
Dropping loader arms and stopping a few inches above the intended placement point of the bale as you advance the bale over the wagon allows you to do a "stop and drop" and the bale will commence coming off the spear as you lower it to the wagon bed. This is not for triflers if you are a newbie - do this on the ground and away from people for LOTS of practice or you could hurt someone. Better always keep people away from the loading point while you load - period. Done right the bale starts to come off the spear but hits the deck or intended placement point before it is completely off the spear - preventing the bale form getting away on you.
However as you have the bale over the wagon and "uncurl" the bale onto the wagon bed - you now have a down angle on the spear - so if you slightly raise the loader as you back out you may find the bale weight will help it slide off the spear.
If your bales are net wrapped they are naturally slippery making many bale types not want to come off the spear by backing out. Not because of the spear but because the bail slides on the other bales or the wagon bed - additional down pressure is not always the answer as it causes the bale to be misshapen and the spear to "snap" down when you back out. In fact down pressure with the loader arms is often the last thing you want to do.
I believe this is what caused your spear to brake from the pic and info received.
Lots more but you will get on to it soon enough.
Get yourself some decent spears and away you go
Best to you
Bez+