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Caustic Burno":r3154t4t said:
terrosist (the mark of the beast.)
What is on your mind here Burno? How do you get terrorist to equate to the mark?
Is Europe The Beast of Revelation ?
Over recent decades many have watched the rise of the European Union through its various stages (EFTA, EEC etc) and wondered. . . .
Is the European Union the Beast foretold in Revelation 13 or is it just the plaything of arrogant politicians; is it, as Mark Steyn suggested, "a) Europe is a smugly irritating but irrelevant backwater; or b) Europe is a smugly irritating but irrelevant backwater where the whole powder keg's about to go up. For what it's worth, I incline to the latter position."
Many prophecy watchers ask, or have asked . . . . .
Are the ten nation members the ten horns?
Is Rome the woman on the scarlet beast of Revelation 17 ?
Is the mark of the beast (666) an RFID microchip which all will be required to have implanted?
Even . . . . .
Is Xavier Solana the antichrist ?
Others have looked accusingly at the Vatican and the Pope.
While we are worrying about these questions, a much clearer candidate has been establishing itself.
Walid Shoebat and Mohammed Altaf point out the other contender in their book, "This is our Eden, This is our end". This book is no longer available as both authors have published new, revised books, but the table below should provide an introduction to the possibilities.
Verse - subject
Prophecy
interpretation
Daniel 11 v36
The antichrist exalting himself .
"The king will do as he pleases. He will exalt and magnify himself above every god and will say unheard-of things against the God of gods. He will be successful until the time of wrath is completed, for what has been determined must take place. 37He will show no regard for the gods of his fathers or for the one desired by women, nor will he regard any god, but will exalt himself above them all.
A major preoccupation of Islam is that Allah has no son – as is written around the inside of the Dome of the Rock on Temple Mount in Jerusalem.
Muslims cry, "Allah wakhba", meaning "Allah is greater" – not, "God is great" as commonly suggested.
Daniel 7
He changes the set times and laws
and oppress his saints and try to change the set times and the laws. The saints will be handed over to him for a time, times and half a time. Islam introduced a calendar dated from Mohammed and imposes sharia law, and is persecuting the saints wherever it is in power.
Rev 13
The beast and his wound that had healed.
The beast I saw……….. 3One of the heads of the beast seemed to have had a fatal wound, but the fatal wound had been healed.
Islam once controlled the ancient world, but lost its dominance. With oil wealth it is re-establishing its hold
Rev 13 v16-18
The mark of the beast – the number of the beast or the number of his name
. 16He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, 17so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name.
18This calls for wisdom. If anyone has insight, let him calculate the number of the beast, for it is man's number. His number is 666.
It is actually a mark - number is possibly a assumption made in translation. Translations vary on the number. 666, 616, 646 or 665.
What if John's manuscript included a representation of what John saw. If he saw Arabic and copied it it the characters read "Bism Allah"; "in the name of Allah". This is used extensively in Islam on documents and on headbands of Islamic terrorists and fanatics. (See below)
Rev 17
The identity of the woman, Babylon
5This title was written on her forehead:
MYSTERY BABYLON THE GREAT - THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
6I saw that the woman was drunk with the blood of the saints, the blood of those who bore testimony to Jesus.
Fornication or prostitution, in God's judgments, refers to idolatry and going after false gods.
Which false god and his adherents are most obviously drunk with the blood of the saints?
Ask the Barnabas Fund.
Rev 17 2
Rev 18 v3
Who has led on all the nations?
With whom have the nations of the world traded and grown rich from excessive luxuries?
. 2With her the kings of the earth committed adultery and the inhabitants of the earth were intoxicated with the wine of her adulteries."
3For all the nations have drunk the maddening wine of her adulteries.
The kings of the earth committed adultery with her,
and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries."
Islam is advancing on the nations aggressively and is funded by Saudi oil money.
Oil money is the centre of global economic power, and OPEC has a stranglehold on world economics.
The world's merchant grow rich catering for the tastes of fabulously rich Arabian oil sheiks
Revelation 17 vs 7 & 9
The city on seven hills (Rome?)
7 Then the angel said to me: "Why are you astonished? I will explain to you the mystery of the woman and of the beast she rides, which has the seven heads and ten horns.
9"This calls for a mind with wisdom. The seven heads are seven hills on which the woman sits.
Mecca can more properly be said to sit on, or equally in the Greek, near seven hills, or mountains.
Rev 18 v7
Her love of luxury
7Give her as much torture and grief as the glory and luxury she gave herself.
See the opulence of Gulf state palaces and cities.
Rev 18 v11-13
Merchant's goods no longer bought by Babylon.
11"The merchants of the earth will weep and mourn over her because no one buys their cargoes any more-- 12cargoes of gold, silver, precious stones and pearls; fine linen, purple, silk and scarlet cloth; every sort of citron wood, and articles of every kind made of ivory, costly wood, bronze, iron and marble; 13cargoes of cinnamon and spice, of incense, myrrh and frankincense, of wine and olive oil, of fine flour and wheat; cattle and sheep; horses and carriages; and bodies and souls of men.
Saudi imports vast amounts of gold, silver and precious stones for their displays of wealth.
Also pearls (millions of dollars worth per year)
Also fine cloth.
Ivory etc figure prominently in Islamic decoration.
Iron and marble in great quantities for prestige buildings.
Spices and fragrances.
Wine and alcohol, surprisingly, is imported in great quantities for consumption by somebody.
Chariots – motor vehicles to burn the oil.
Rev 18 v13 (end)
Cargoes of the bodies and souls of men
and bodies and souls of men.
Nearly all labour in Gulf states is imported; specialists from the west and manual from the third world.
Islam enslaves a billion souls.
Rev 20 v4
Those beheaded for their testimony to Jesus and not taking the mark of the beast
I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony for Jesus and because of the word of God. They had not worshiped the beast or his image and had not received his mark on their foreheads or their hands.
Where are they obsessed with swords?
Where do they execute those who accept Jesus ?
Where is beheading the method of execution?
Saudi Arabia and thereabouts
The Mark of the Beast
The following illustrations from Simon Altaf's book demonstrate the contention that John recorded the symbols he saw revealed, rather than writing down Greek characters. This means that the "mark" referred to is the Arabic phrase, "In the Name of Allah", not the number 666. The left hand illustration is from the oldest surviving manuscript of Revelation. Notice the similarity to the swords symbol and the name of Allah (rotated 90 degrees) See Simon's book for a thorough discussion of this matter; and many others.
Simon Altaf a former Muslim wrote this book to alert Christians to the dangers of ignoring or underestimating Islam.
This book is not an easy read, but it contains an exhaustive discussion of all the problems in accepting Islam at face value.