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<blockquote data-quote="Bez!" data-source="post: 186087" data-attributes="member: 2830"><p>All right - let's talk a bit about this.</p><p></p><p>It sounds like you want to go registered. I would like you to give me all the reasons you want to do this. And remember, unless you plan to go seed stocking - your product is not worth a penny more than a slaughter animal just because they have a piece of paper attached to them.</p><p></p><p>Then, I would like you to remember the embryo does not always take. </p><p></p><p>I would also remind you that just because it is an embryo does not mean it will be a quality animal. In fact you stand just as big a chance in NOT having a quality animal as if you were to buy a registered animal and AI it.</p><p></p><p>Excellent genetics all around do not always a good animal make.</p><p></p><p>So, when you get this embryo on the ground as a bull calf - what are your plans? What if he is a lined backed, hunch backed animal? You going to nut him and sell him, or do you plan to try and sell him as a breeder?</p><p></p><p>Every time I see and hear this type of discussion I always remember that there are some animals out there that have literaly thousands of progeny - and none ever made it to the next stud book.</p><p></p><p>In my opinion - if one is starting out, one should ignore the registration game - it will eat you up and spit you out. Instead one should enter into the high quality commercial game. There is as much and maybe more money to be made for the beginner here - and it certainly still allows the opportunity to reach out to all of those good genetics that can be found in a nitrogen tank.</p><p></p><p>If you truly want to go registered -and yes I am against a young person doing this unless they have substantial backing from someone because usually that person will not have the financial capability to promote the animal - it can be done.</p><p></p><p>Ever notice all those young folk who get on here with their registered animals? Most of them - not all - but most of them - get their money from some place other than the bank. Usually a mom or a dad - with deep pockets. It is friggin expensive! Your idea might start you with an animal on the ground - but who backs you for the promotion aspects?</p><p></p><p>Go find your embryo - or as many as you can afford - and plan on losing about 50% of them. Find your recip animal and have at.</p><p></p><p>Not the way I would do it, but if you are determined I would say go for it.</p><p></p><p>Better to buy one good one with calf at side and one in the oven - you at least know what you have to start out with. What if you have a couple of wrecks? You might lose an entire year - are you up for that? </p><p></p><p>I am assuming you are looking at Angus, as there are precious few other breeds that seem to appeal to the younger generation.</p><p></p><p>But what do I know? I am just a dumb old fat guy.</p><p></p><p>Good luck on whichever path you take. Just be ready to pay the price in event of a wreck.</p><p></p><p>Do not forget my opening question! I am interested in your answers.</p><p></p><p>Bez!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Bez!, post: 186087, member: 2830"] All right - let's talk a bit about this. It sounds like you want to go registered. I would like you to give me all the reasons you want to do this. And remember, unless you plan to go seed stocking - your product is not worth a penny more than a slaughter animal just because they have a piece of paper attached to them. Then, I would like you to remember the embryo does not always take. I would also remind you that just because it is an embryo does not mean it will be a quality animal. In fact you stand just as big a chance in NOT having a quality animal as if you were to buy a registered animal and AI it. Excellent genetics all around do not always a good animal make. So, when you get this embryo on the ground as a bull calf - what are your plans? What if he is a lined backed, hunch backed animal? You going to nut him and sell him, or do you plan to try and sell him as a breeder? Every time I see and hear this type of discussion I always remember that there are some animals out there that have literaly thousands of progeny - and none ever made it to the next stud book. In my opinion - if one is starting out, one should ignore the registration game - it will eat you up and spit you out. Instead one should enter into the high quality commercial game. There is as much and maybe more money to be made for the beginner here - and it certainly still allows the opportunity to reach out to all of those good genetics that can be found in a nitrogen tank. If you truly want to go registered -and yes I am against a young person doing this unless they have substantial backing from someone because usually that person will not have the financial capability to promote the animal - it can be done. Ever notice all those young folk who get on here with their registered animals? Most of them - not all - but most of them - get their money from some place other than the bank. Usually a mom or a dad - with deep pockets. It is friggin expensive! Your idea might start you with an animal on the ground - but who backs you for the promotion aspects? Go find your embryo - or as many as you can afford - and plan on losing about 50% of them. Find your recip animal and have at. Not the way I would do it, but if you are determined I would say go for it. Better to buy one good one with calf at side and one in the oven - you at least know what you have to start out with. What if you have a couple of wrecks? You might lose an entire year - are you up for that? I am assuming you are looking at Angus, as there are precious few other breeds that seem to appeal to the younger generation. But what do I know? I am just a dumb old fat guy. Good luck on whichever path you take. Just be ready to pay the price in event of a wreck. Do not forget my opening question! I am interested in your answers. Bez! [/QUOTE]
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