Think of it this way, every heifer born does not make it into your cow herd. Along the same lines just because a calf is born from a registered cao doesn't mean it posesses the genetics that is benificial to the breed. If someone told me every bull calf born was to be a herd sire I'd say they are full of it or they need to do a serious rethinking of their selection criteria. We run commercial and registerd red angus cattle and pay the dues for the registered animals but every calf from the registered herd doesn't get registered. Some make it as commercials, some go to the sale barn. If you want to sell genetics then the RAAA dues are a small price to pay, if your selling pounds then just run them as commercial animals.
Register them or forget it.
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Rustler9
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I don't know anything about total herd reporting-we don't do that in our breed. We register an animal if we think it deems registering. However, I do believe that if you own a herd of animals that are registered or can be registered that you may be doing yourself and your cattle an injustice by not doing so. Many animals contain genetics that are worthy of keeping track of. I would say that it depends on the quality of the animal regardless of the breed that it is and of the respective association that the breed belongs to but it may advantageous to you to have your animals registered unless you plan to market your animals solely as beef. Here's a question for you-when you look for a new breeding bull, what do you look for? A good commercial bull or a registered bull? If you chose the second answer-why? Just something to think about.
The "whole herd reporting"(mandatory) was what split
the American Murray Grey Association and the International
Murray Grey assoc was born. The American group made
mandatory whole herd reporting(and a yearly cow "tax")
required; without a membership vote. There were a few
people on that board that were gung-ho on EPD systems
and wanted everyone to be paying for the system; plus
that extra money for the board to fluff off was a plus.
Now the Murray Grey International assoc costs 20.00US dollars per
year dues and calves can be
registered for $10. canadian(about 7-8 us dollars)there is no
annual cow "tax" - and
breeding "up" is allowed if using purebred murray bulls.
Presently the MGIA is the largest assoc in North America
and probably gaining on the membership of the Australian
group. The MGIA has a website, newsletters, annual
breeder directory, free "for sale" ads on the website --
and no paid employees. Breeders can participate in an
EPD system if the want to -- and if they pay for it
themselves instead of shoving the cost onto everyone
else.
See their website:
http://www.murraygrey.org
It is absolutely correct, IMO, that not every calf born,
no matter how high quality the pedigree, is suitable for
breeding stock----and that's why it's a good idea
to be versatile enough to develop a freezer beef
buyer list.
the American Murray Grey Association and the International
Murray Grey assoc was born. The American group made
mandatory whole herd reporting(and a yearly cow "tax")
required; without a membership vote. There were a few
people on that board that were gung-ho on EPD systems
and wanted everyone to be paying for the system; plus
that extra money for the board to fluff off was a plus.
Now the Murray Grey International assoc costs 20.00US dollars per
year dues and calves can be
registered for $10. canadian(about 7-8 us dollars)there is no
annual cow "tax" - and
breeding "up" is allowed if using purebred murray bulls.
Presently the MGIA is the largest assoc in North America
and probably gaining on the membership of the Australian
group. The MGIA has a website, newsletters, annual
breeder directory, free "for sale" ads on the website --
and no paid employees. Breeders can participate in an
EPD system if the want to -- and if they pay for it
themselves instead of shoving the cost onto everyone
else.
See their website:
http://www.murraygrey.org
It is absolutely correct, IMO, that not every calf born,
no matter how high quality the pedigree, is suitable for
breeding stock----and that's why it's a good idea
to be versatile enough to develop a freezer beef
buyer list.
wade - I can't decide what your 3 wishes were actually.
The downside of direct marketing beef is that you must
have more land and/or pen them up and feed them out
and either choice makes production of beef more expensive---
thus you must have a much higher price for your beef than
what people pay at wal-mart,etc. There's a management
difference of significance, as well as cost---and I guess
that's why most people don't do it.
The downside of direct marketing beef is that you must
have more land and/or pen them up and feed them out
and either choice makes production of beef more expensive---
thus you must have a much higher price for your beef than
what people pay at wal-mart,etc. There's a management
difference of significance, as well as cost---and I guess
that's why most people don't do it.
We also sell by the hanging weight. However, I'd rather
sell a 7-9 month old bull calf for 1800.(assuming that he
shows promise as breeding stock) than spend another
year finishing him out. And I guess, when you figure in
costs, selling semen is the most profitable, followed by
embryos.
sell a 7-9 month old bull calf for 1800.(assuming that he
shows promise as breeding stock) than spend another
year finishing him out. And I guess, when you figure in
costs, selling semen is the most profitable, followed by
embryos.
