Red Angus sexed
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Pedigree? All I know is that they are (roughly) half Red Angus/half Gelbvieh. But, since I can't find sexed Gelbvieh *anywhere*, I'm stuck with Red Angus.
As for the bull? I honestly have no idea. I'm new enough at this cow thing to not know much. I just know what I have, and know I want better. If I continually breed to the highest quality bull I can find, I'll have a bunch of really nice stock in 10-15 years. . .which is kinda my time frame.
As for the bull? I honestly have no idea. I'm new enough at this cow thing to not know much. I just know what I have, and know I want better. If I continually breed to the highest quality bull I can find, I'll have a bunch of really nice stock in 10-15 years. . .which is kinda my time frame.
Where are you located? ABS has sexed semen on the red angus bull NORSEMAN KING. If you get on www.absglobal.com and search for him you can find pictures and data on him. He is a bull that will increase carcass traits as well as prodoce excellent females.
Norseman King is a good bull. He produces moderately framed females that are thick and deep and have good body length. The only thing I've noticed from him, is the heifers out of him don't have great neck extension. He has also thrown some fancier females off our showier cows.
dun":2uyk0o1j said:
I apologize for my ignorance. . .13 months ago I could count on one (1) hand how many times I had ever even *touched* a cow. Now I've got 9 head. Yeah, buddy. . .I'm a big time rancher now. . .or something like that.
So Noresman is a top-flight bull except that the heifer calves he has have a hard time when *they* have calves, yes? I'm just trying to build a herd right now (hence the sexed semen). . .so that could be something to watch out for. Especially since I'm still on a really steep learning curve!
Cle, I'm down in Stillwater, and we have Reproduction Enterprises, Inc here which can get any kind of semen I want. . .I just have to know what to ask for :banana:
redcowsrule33
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My appologies, dun, but in whose world is his calving ease not bad? At only +1 CED he is well below breed average and not really a calving ease bull for heifers. But I couldn't agree more on his CEM.
IMHO, I think you are better off choosing a good proven calving ease bull for this year and be happy with what you get. There will be a better selection I think by next year if you want sexed semen. You can't build a herd with dead calves and cows from calving problems. Especially if you are just starting out.
If you are bent on sexed semen there are more (I hate to say this) Black Angus bulls available to choose from. But I don't know why anyone would want to do that. ;-)
IMHO, I think you are better off choosing a good proven calving ease bull for this year and be happy with what you get. There will be a better selection I think by next year if you want sexed semen. You can't build a herd with dead calves and cows from calving problems. Especially if you are just starting out.
If you are bent on sexed semen there are more (I hate to say this) Black Angus bulls available to choose from. But I don't know why anyone would want to do that. ;-)
redcowsrule33":278rsoc3 said:
Not all that bad. Not godd but not awfull either. Well below what I use but a lot of the popular bulls seem to be going more and more to lower CE and or higher BW. That's part of the reason I've been having a hard time trying to find a new AI bull.
Jeanne - Simme Valley
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Jack T - do you realize that you are NOT guaranteed a HEIFER? Instead of 50% chance of getting a heifer, it's going to be about 80% chance. But, you will get lower conception. Instead of about 8 mil sperm count, ABS puts about 1 mil in sexed semen. And, since it was "manipulated" to get it sexed, it's not as viable. And on top of all this, it is more expensive. I realize you are only puchasing semen for 2 head, but -----
I would go with a good calving ease bull. Pick a breed - any breed - what difference does it make? You can't register the offspring. Oh yeah, you could breed them to a calving ease Simmental :banana: or a few other breeds that allow you to upgrade.
Hmm - maybe I better backtrack on that. Does RA let you upgrade??? Now that I think about it, they might. Could you register a 1/2 blood?
I would go with a good calving ease bull. Pick a breed - any breed - what difference does it make? You can't register the offspring. Oh yeah, you could breed them to a calving ease Simmental :banana: or a few other breeds that allow you to upgrade.
Hmm - maybe I better backtrack on that. Does RA let you upgrade??? Now that I think about it, they might. Could you register a 1/2 blood?
Jeanne - Yeah, but for what I'm after, it's worth paying a bit more for a better chance at a heifer. At this point I am only interested in building a herd. Kinda working on my retirement fund. . .and bull calves don't help me at all. I've been using sexed stuff on Jersey heifers/cows with right at a 50% conception rate.
Select Sires doesn't have anything in a Red Angus sexed, and Norseman from ABS doesn't sound like a bull for either a) heifers, or b) somebody with my astounding lack of experience.
May just have to bite the bullet and used unsexed this year. Doggonit.
Select Sires doesn't have anything in a Red Angus sexed, and Norseman from ABS doesn't sound like a bull for either a) heifers, or b) somebody with my astounding lack of experience.
May just have to bite the bullet and used unsexed this year. Doggonit.
Jeanne - Simme Valley
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Have you checked Genex or Accellerated?
Jeanne - Simme Valley
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From what I have heard Accelerated's sexed semen is the best conception.
redcowsrule33
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Conquest would be a better choice for heifers.
It's tough I agree. I'm trying some calving-ease Canadian bulls to limit inbreeding but I'm not happy with the carcass numbers on most. Just for fun I searched for my "ideal" bull on RAAA's website on an EPD search. Returned one bull that fit my parameters. And he's dead.dun":20l2fiua said:
