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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 2557"><p>I totally agree. And in some cases (like mine), keeping a bull is NOT convenient at all. Here at home, I only keep 2 Jersey milk cows and a series of calves. No room, no desire, and no facilities for a bull. The oldest bull you'll ever find on this place would be less than a year, once they become "hormonal" they're sold as "gomers".</p><p></p><p>For what it would cost to feed a bull for year, I took an AI class and bought semen.</p><p></p><p>Dad's place is different matter though, it will take a long while to convince him that he doesn't *need* a bull. But I did convince him not to replace this old bull just yet, and to AI the cows and use the old bull for clean up. I footed the bill for this first year's AI, I figure it will be worth it in the end when Dad ends up a nice crop of calves and he sees that the actual cost of AI wasn't that much. We can AI for many years off of what a new bull would cost -- and those bulls in that tank can't run you over. Can't take out 100 ft of fence to go and visit the neighbors girls and fight the neighbor's bull either.</p><p></p><p>And we had a great big added benefit from syncronizing and AI'ing this year. Most of the old guys around Dad's claim that the more times you put a cow through the chute the wilder she'll get -- phooey! We put the cows through twice for Lutalyse, then AI'd over 3 days, with all the cows going through the chute each day, so every cow went through 5 times. We kept everything real calm and quiet.</p><p></p><p>Had the vet out last week to work the herd and those old cows were sweethearts, filed right in, stuck their head out to be caught, stayed real calm, nobody got upset. It was great! Only going through the chute once a year wasn't enough to teach them that the chute wouldn't hurt them. Going through calmly, 5 times in a short period, really did make a difference.</p><p></p><p>Ann B</p><p></p><p>> Easier doesn't mean better or more</p><p>> desirable. The only plus in using</p><p>> a bull is convenience.</p><p></p><p>> dun</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p> <a href="mailto:Bledsoes_Bunnies@msn.com">Bledsoes_Bunnies@msn.com</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 2557"] I totally agree. And in some cases (like mine), keeping a bull is NOT convenient at all. Here at home, I only keep 2 Jersey milk cows and a series of calves. No room, no desire, and no facilities for a bull. The oldest bull you'll ever find on this place would be less than a year, once they become "hormonal" they're sold as "gomers". For what it would cost to feed a bull for year, I took an AI class and bought semen. Dad's place is different matter though, it will take a long while to convince him that he doesn't *need* a bull. But I did convince him not to replace this old bull just yet, and to AI the cows and use the old bull for clean up. I footed the bill for this first year's AI, I figure it will be worth it in the end when Dad ends up a nice crop of calves and he sees that the actual cost of AI wasn't that much. We can AI for many years off of what a new bull would cost -- and those bulls in that tank can't run you over. Can't take out 100 ft of fence to go and visit the neighbors girls and fight the neighbor's bull either. And we had a great big added benefit from syncronizing and AI'ing this year. Most of the old guys around Dad's claim that the more times you put a cow through the chute the wilder she'll get -- phooey! We put the cows through twice for Lutalyse, then AI'd over 3 days, with all the cows going through the chute each day, so every cow went through 5 times. We kept everything real calm and quiet. Had the vet out last week to work the herd and those old cows were sweethearts, filed right in, stuck their head out to be caught, stayed real calm, nobody got upset. It was great! Only going through the chute once a year wasn't enough to teach them that the chute wouldn't hurt them. Going through calmly, 5 times in a short period, really did make a difference. Ann B > Easier doesn't mean better or more > desirable. The only plus in using > a bull is convenience. > dun [email=Bledsoes_Bunnies@msn.com]Bledsoes_Bunnies@msn.com[/email] [/QUOTE]
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