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<blockquote data-quote="alexfarms" data-source="post: 694194" data-attributes="member: 8677"><p>Yes, I think you are being very logical. I think that is why you asked the questions in the first place. In my opinion there are alot of variables that could distort any conclusions anyone would try to make from one of these tests. Comparing raw (unadjusted) data would be a mistake and trying to satisfy all of the potential adjustments would be virtually impossible. I will stand by my "assumptions" on lowered growth potential in calves from first calf heifers as compared to their mature herd mates and the reason is that the environmental differences would begin during gestation. That is why 24 month old heifers have their offspring's birth weights adjusted up. That one factor will never be overcome for calves out of first calf heifers. Their genetic potential wouldn't be affected though, of course.</p><p></p><p>THE conclusion you can draw about your 0232 bull is he is capable of siring calves that will hit targets in a feedlot and that is something to be proud of. I remember when these ultrasound epd's first came out and one of the points the originators made was: "This technology will enable us to identify and eliminate those cattle that just can't develop the necessary carcass traits to perform in a feedlot." Your 0232 bull definately doesn't need to be culled for lack of desirable carcass traits.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="alexfarms, post: 694194, member: 8677"] Yes, I think you are being very logical. I think that is why you asked the questions in the first place. In my opinion there are alot of variables that could distort any conclusions anyone would try to make from one of these tests. Comparing raw (unadjusted) data would be a mistake and trying to satisfy all of the potential adjustments would be virtually impossible. I will stand by my "assumptions" on lowered growth potential in calves from first calf heifers as compared to their mature herd mates and the reason is that the environmental differences would begin during gestation. That is why 24 month old heifers have their offspring's birth weights adjusted up. That one factor will never be overcome for calves out of first calf heifers. Their genetic potential wouldn't be affected though, of course. THE conclusion you can draw about your 0232 bull is he is capable of siring calves that will hit targets in a feedlot and that is something to be proud of. I remember when these ultrasound epd's first came out and one of the points the originators made was: "This technology will enable us to identify and eliminate those cattle that just can't develop the necessary carcass traits to perform in a feedlot." Your 0232 bull definately doesn't need to be culled for lack of desirable carcass traits. [/QUOTE]
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