jvicars":2udwvct6 said:i have always been told its better to buy a bull than raise one. i have a bull calf i would like to watch to see how he grows since as a 2 month old he looks promising. am i wasting my time?
jvicars":3vc8su4f said:i have always been told its better to buy a bull than raise one. i have a bull calf i would like to watch to see how he grows since as a 2 month old he looks promising. am i wasting my time?
jvicars":1nm225nd said:i have always been told its better to buy a bull than raise one. i have a bull calf i would like to watch to see how he grows since as a 2 month old he looks promising. am i wasting my time?
backhoeboogie":hkyivg38 said:jvicars":hkyivg38 said:i have always been told its better to buy a bull than raise one. i have a bull calf i would like to watch to see how he grows since as a 2 month old he looks promising. am i wasting my time?
Bigbull gave you some insight into costs. Best to think it out and be sure before you go throwing money into him.
I saw one at birth that had the birthing trait I wanted. He is suited for the climate I am in. Instead of banding him new born, I gave him some time. By weaning time, the decision was made. I had bought his dam heavy bred so I sold her. I didn't put him on a feed bucket but rather pastured him, which really helped on cost.
Brute 23":3ta7ewtz said:backhoeboogie":3ta7ewtz said:jvicars":3ta7ewtz said:i have always been told its better to buy a bull than raise one. i have a bull calf i would like to watch to see how he grows since as a 2 month old he looks promising. am i wasting my time?
Bigbull gave you some insight into costs. Best to think it out and be sure before you go throwing money into him.
I saw one at birth that had the birthing trait I wanted. He is suited for the climate I am in. Instead of banding him new born, I gave him some time. By weaning time, the decision was made. I had bought his dam heavy bred so I sold her. I didn't put him on a feed bucket but rather pastured him, which really helped on cost.
Why did you sell her? Maybe I missed an obvious. :|
jvicars":2v55drpf said:few questions on feeding him.
i rarely feed any of my cows or steer calfs. they cow well with minerials and grass. why would i need to feed him feed every day? I am in FL so I have grass most of the year. i dont want a bull that requires feed to stay sound. I have black angus bulls on my herd now. they stay in good shape all year round with little feed.
what am i missing. is feeding them required to get them to a sustainable point as a herd bull?
Brute 23":2jqk6a31 said:An animal rased soley on feed should not be put into the beef industy for producing offspring. That animal should become hamburgers and steaks.;-)
An animal rased soley on feed should not be put into the beef industy for producing offspring. That animal should become hamburgers and steaks.
Better off selling some cows to afford a better bull than go backward. What gain is there in using a terminal bred bull? He does not have to go out and buy a national show winner. He already has 2 angus bulls so why go backwards with a conglomeration of genetics having a slim chance of producing anything better than he is already producing.Angus/Brangus":1yqv1n30 said:Novatech, what we don't understand is what the goals of this individual are!!!! There are many folks out there with cattle, with little money, who just want a bull, and take their chances as to "output" of that bull. So, we have to address that situation as well. With that said, raising a bull, off grass, MIGHT produce a decent herd bull for someone. There won't be any "epd's" written up but it could still be a good, general, herd bull for a guy that just wants to produce some calves for the sale barn. Sometimes we lock ourselves into "the top echelon of genetics" when , in fact, that is a game for those with a jingle in their pocket. What about those without the "jingle"?