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<blockquote data-quote="Marty" data-source="post: 43394" data-attributes="member: 583"><p>Don't remember looking at the poll but I might have and don't remember, sometimes I go through here pretty fast. Wouldn't have voted anyway as I don't like to stir the pot and I do enjoy this forum because it is pretty tame and not much for conflict. I do have some things to say, though, without wanting to offend our friends to the North.</p><p>For a number of years (remember the pre-Atkins years?) we were surviving on some pretty low prices. I know one year were I got $420 for heifers and $475 for steers weighing 550-600#. The prices were low, I was told by NCBA, because cattlemen (me) was putting too much meat (pounds/cattle, whatever) into the market. In the same breath they also told me that there was no effect on the market from all the Mexican and Canadian beef coming across the border. </p><p>Anyone with open eyes can see that when the packers have an excessive supply from which to draw there can be no mechanism to for the supply/demand economics to kick in. The packers owned multi-thousands of cattle plus enjoyed the supply from the North and South. There was no way the natural cattle cycle could happen and the packers enjoyed the constant, low, cattle price and we (all of us, Canadians too) were surviving. For several years, even though I was a beginning rancher, I was praying they'd close the border.</p><p>Enter Atkins and BSE. Shut the Canadian border and our prices sky-rocket. Imagine if we could close the Mexican border. Now I've seen all the statistics that show we export more cattle North and South than we import but I agree with Mark Twain about statistics. The fact is, one border closed and the prices went up. The people who work at the feedyards holding packer-owned cattle told me the packers sent everything (every weight class critter they owned) to the packing house trying to break the cattlemen's increasing hold on the market (when the feeders started holding out for more money knowing the packers were running out of beef). </p><p>Now, that said, (I'm sorry I'm out of time and have to go), sometimes when I think I'm smart I find out I'm fooled again. Now I'm wondering where the packers and NCBA are about to out-maneuver us. Got to go. Didn't even talk about R-Calf. Sorry. Later.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marty, post: 43394, member: 583"] Don't remember looking at the poll but I might have and don't remember, sometimes I go through here pretty fast. Wouldn't have voted anyway as I don't like to stir the pot and I do enjoy this forum because it is pretty tame and not much for conflict. I do have some things to say, though, without wanting to offend our friends to the North. For a number of years (remember the pre-Atkins years?) we were surviving on some pretty low prices. I know one year were I got $420 for heifers and $475 for steers weighing 550-600#. The prices were low, I was told by NCBA, because cattlemen (me) was putting too much meat (pounds/cattle, whatever) into the market. In the same breath they also told me that there was no effect on the market from all the Mexican and Canadian beef coming across the border. Anyone with open eyes can see that when the packers have an excessive supply from which to draw there can be no mechanism to for the supply/demand economics to kick in. The packers owned multi-thousands of cattle plus enjoyed the supply from the North and South. There was no way the natural cattle cycle could happen and the packers enjoyed the constant, low, cattle price and we (all of us, Canadians too) were surviving. For several years, even though I was a beginning rancher, I was praying they'd close the border. Enter Atkins and BSE. Shut the Canadian border and our prices sky-rocket. Imagine if we could close the Mexican border. Now I've seen all the statistics that show we export more cattle North and South than we import but I agree with Mark Twain about statistics. The fact is, one border closed and the prices went up. The people who work at the feedyards holding packer-owned cattle told me the packers sent everything (every weight class critter they owned) to the packing house trying to break the cattlemen's increasing hold on the market (when the feeders started holding out for more money knowing the packers were running out of beef). Now, that said, (I'm sorry I'm out of time and have to go), sometimes when I think I'm smart I find out I'm fooled again. Now I'm wondering where the packers and NCBA are about to out-maneuver us. Got to go. Didn't even talk about R-Calf. Sorry. Later. [/QUOTE]
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