Questions

[Moocow11]

Here are 12 of my brothers heifers/ cows. we would like to know what we should breed them to to get the best calves out of them. he would like county club calves or the best he can get.
this is a char cross cow

char cross heifer

limo x hereford heifer.

hereford heifer. he wants a hereford.

simmy x hereford.

637 angus heifer. wants an angus calf

2147 cross heifer

665 cross heifer

664 limo heifer she is really really stout

632 angus heifer. wants an angus calf

angus cow wants an angus calf

628 angus heifer

we will be ordering semen off topsire.com what do you think we should breed them to

 

[vs_cattle]

Breed em to a Charolais BULL you will get some nice looking off white calves, smoky calves, and buckskin calves so thats what you should go with

 

[CPL]

For the Hereford Heifer I would use Purple Tonic. I've seen a good amount of his calves and they are really nice. They would definitly do well at a county fair. I'm pretty sure his BW is in check too.

 

[CPL]

we will be ordering semen off topsire.com what do you think we should breed them to

Just looked and Tonic isn't on the topsires list. He's semen is from Purple Reign or you could just get it off of Reed Enterprises.

http://www.reedent.com/reedent/cattle/p ... ple10m.htm

 

[FlaAngus]

I recommend SAV Pathfinder 3134, ive seen some great calves off him and i have one in the barn (char cross) i'll try to get a pic

Heres a link to him

http://cattlevisions.com/Angus/SAV Pathfinder 3134.php

 

[iowahawkeyes]

Something thick, deep, and correct. Most of your cows have a lot of set to their back leg and aren't very deep. If you want good show calves, they have to be much deeper, thicker and straighter than they are.

 

[*Cowgirl*]

Find a good club calf bull (under 3 way cross)

 

[AAOK]

Something thick, deep, and correct. Most of your cows have a lot of set to their back leg and aren't very deep. If you want good show calves, they have to be much deeper, thicker and straighter than they are.

I agree, but I think look for a Bull that sires a back leg that is sometimes too straight. Another point; all of the cows need more bone. Don't go by the pictures on the sites. Find thick, deep, straight, heavy boned calves, and find out the sire.

From the calves I've seen, a suggestion would be Hannibal.

 

[Moocow11]

the reason we are ordering off topsires is because you only have to order 10 straws. and each straw can be a differnet bull.
http://www.topsires.com

 

[Colorado2008]

the reason we are ordering off topsires is because you only have to order 10 straws. and each straw can be a differnet bull.
http://www.topsires.com

I would think about ordering more than one straw per cow. The reason being, sometimes they don't take first time around and you need to do it a second time. Unless you have a clean up bull.

 

[richburg102]

Something thick, deep, and correct. Most of your cows have a lot of set to their back leg and aren't very deep. If you want good show calves, they have to be much deeper, thicker and straighter than they are.

I agree, but I think look for a Bull that sires a back leg that is sometimes too straight. Another point; all of the cows need more bone. Don't go by the pictures on the sites. Find thick, deep, straight, heavy boned calves, and find out the sire.

From the calves I've seen, a suggestion would be Hannibal.

i have a hannibal heifer and i would have to say that when i bought her i would have never thought she would have got as deep as she is........which is what these cows need, and of course he sires thick big boned calves which is usually what all club calves do.

for the angus cows i would recommend EXAR Lutton or Northern Improvement because they sire really good show calves

i dont know much about herfs but this new purple millsap bull would look like a good new bull to try.

 

[Moocow11]

yes we have clean up bulls.

ok this is what i was thinking. going from the top to bottom.

#1 char cow-http://topsires.com/bulls/05bulls/stainlesssteel.html
#2 char heifer-http://topsires.com/bulls/06bulls/aceinthehole.html
#3 limo x hereford
i cant decided.
#4 hereford
http://topsires.com/bulls/harddrive.html
#5 simmy x hereford
cant decide.
#6 angus heifer
i really dont care the best bull possible
http://topsires.com/bulls/maxihb40.html
#7 cross heifer
http://topsires.com/doctorwho.html
#8 cross heifer
http://topsires.com/doctorwho.html
#9 limo heifer
want a limo but dont have many options
http://topsires.com/bulls/hutton.html
#10 angus heifer
http://topsires.com/bulls/maxihb40.html
#11 angus cow
http://topsires.com/bulls/06bulls/lut.html
#12 angus heifer
http://topsires.com/bulls/bando1024.html

He just wants to get the best calf possible from the bulls at topsires.com. tell me what you think we should breed them to.

 

[Moocow11]

i need to put cidrs in them by wednesday. so what do you think

 

[cattleluvr18]

you know your animals best.

 

[Moocow11]

ok here is what i am thinking again

For #1-http://topsires.com/bulls/alias.html
for #2- http://topsires.com/doctorwho.html
for #3- http://topsires.com/bulls/07bulls/ace_of_diamonds.html
for #4- http://topsires.com/bulls/harddrive.html
for #5- http://topsires.com/bulls/06bulls/purpleinferno.html
for #6- http://topsires.com/bulls/maxihb40.html
for #7- http://topsires.com/doctorwho.html
for #8- http://topsires.com/bulls/maxihb40.html
for #9- http://topsires.com/bulls/hutton.html
for #10- http://topsires.com/bulls/maxihb40.html
for #11- http://topsires.com/bulls/maxihb40.html
for #12- http://topsires.com/bulls/05bulls/smoothcriminal.html
or http://topsires.com/bulls/06bulls/salute.html

ok now what do you think of those bulls

 

[Colorado2008]

This is what I think. With heifers we usually just want a calf out of them. So we breed to calving ease bulls and not really worry a whole lot about 'what they look like'. Its just a plus for them to turn out good. If you ahve good cows, you should come out with a good calf. So the angus I would go with an angus calving ease bull, char calving ease bull so on and so fourth.