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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 191"><p>> I read the articles you mentioned.</p><p></p><p>> I have figured out the capital</p><p>> costs. Much of what I would need</p><p>> is already there. There are some</p><p>> repairs needed, and a few</p><p>> equipment pieces I would need.</p><p>> This place has enough storage,</p><p>> water, feeding systems, pens.</p><p></p><p>> I would be able to use some of my</p><p>> husband's Simmental cows, but</p><p>> would buy about half of my own.</p><p>> The cows are purebred and would</p><p>> try to buy the purebred also, but</p><p>> am considering herefords instead</p><p>> of Simis.</p><p></p><p>> I have checked into enviromental</p><p>> stuff. There's not a ton, since I</p><p>> would only have 100-200</p><p>> cows/calves, and they would not</p><p>> all be on this place. I think I</p><p>> would pretend I was bigger and</p><p>> have a waste plan in place</p><p>> anyways, just for good management</p><p>> and practice.</p><p></p><p>> My feed would be homegrown, and</p><p>> yes there are costs. The costs are</p><p>> lower than the "lost</p><p>> income" from not selling the</p><p>> grain, but I used the "lost</p><p>> income to figure with. He already</p><p>> farms many acres, so adding mine</p><p>> wouldn't be a big deal. When I</p><p>> rotate my crops, we will trade, so</p><p>> the fields stay in good shape, but</p><p>> I still get what I need for the</p><p>> cows (corn, silage, hay)</p><p></p><p>> My husband has two angus bulls</p><p>> with very good stats. He has two</p><p>> others, but I would not want to</p><p>> use them. They have no records and</p><p>> even if they look good on the</p><p>> outside, it's what's inside that</p><p>> counts.</p><p></p><p>> I've considered vet costs,</p><p>> including vaccinations, implants,</p><p>> etc. I've considered supplements.</p><p>> I've considered what would happen</p><p>> if the crops fail or pasture gets</p><p>> eaten by pests (that happened last</p><p>> year).</p><p></p><p>> I don't have experience, but I do</p><p>> have some brains and I think it</p><p>> could work. My biggest lack of</p><p>> information is in marketing them,</p><p>> but I even calculated my figures</p><p>> using sale barn live cattle</p><p>> prices, in case I can't figure out</p><p>> any other way to selling them. I</p><p>> am going to talk him into tracking</p><p>> a sample of the calves he has now.</p><p>> My state beef association will do</p><p>> that for pretty cheap and it's</p><p>> worth it to know where we stand. I</p><p>> think (probably everyone does!)</p><p>> that his calves will test out</p><p>> pretty well. I think mine will be</p><p>> better, especially if I have the</p><p>> data to work with.</p><p></p><p>> I can do this full-time. I would</p><p>> not have to work this job, with</p><p>> the 12 hour night shifts! I don't</p><p>> mind walking in that special cow</p><p>> pen mud, placing my arm where the</p><p>> sun don't shine to see just where</p><p>> that calf is at, though I do get a</p><p>> little nervous standing down a</p><p>> bull without something (a 2X4 will</p><p>> do) in my hands.</p><p></p><p>> My husband and I had a talk</p><p>> tonight and I showed him some</p><p>> articles on price grids. He is not</p><p>> stupid, just got lazy in his old</p><p>> age I guess. He is familiar with</p><p>> selling hogs on a similar basis.</p><p>> He sort of does things the way he</p><p>> always has and doesn't worry about</p><p>> making money or making payments.</p><p>> He always manages. I, on the other</p><p>> hand, have to figure it all up and</p><p>> at least know if I have a chance</p><p>> of making it before I jump in!</p><p></p><p>> I appreciate the advice on going</p><p>> broke in the learning curve! It</p><p>> could very well turn out that way.</p><p>> I hope not, but I think there are</p><p>> enough resources to give it a try.</p><p>> I can always sell out and pay off</p><p>> the bank for the remainder of my</p><p>> life! If it works as planned, then</p><p>> I will make no money, but in 20</p><p>> years the place will be paid for</p><p>> and my kids can enjoy it!</p><p></p><p>> Is there anything I forgot?</p><p>> Probably something major....got</p><p>> taxes, insurance, repairs, fuel,</p><p>> utilities, water....and a good</p><p>> working vocabulary of those</p><p>> special words for when things just</p><p>> don't go as planned.</p><p></p><p>> Any comments are appreciated!</p><p>> Thanks</p><p></p><p>you sound like a better cattleman(woman) than most..you certainly seem to have researched it thoroughly.. and it sounds like you have made up your mind.. i dont know many men who care to palpate their own cows, much less many women.. or many women who will take a 2x4 to their bulls.. LOL i am on a much smaller scale than what you are describing (i run cow/calf operation, moving into the registered stock) and i am still trying to figure out how to make them pay their way.. LOL hope you have good luck.. gene</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 191"] > I read the articles you mentioned. > I have figured out the capital > costs. Much of what I would need > is already there. There are some > repairs needed, and a few > equipment pieces I would need. > This place has enough storage, > water, feeding systems, pens. > I would be able to use some of my > husband's Simmental cows, but > would buy about half of my own. > The cows are purebred and would > try to buy the purebred also, but > am considering herefords instead > of Simis. > I have checked into enviromental > stuff. There's not a ton, since I > would only have 100-200 > cows/calves, and they would not > all be on this place. I think I > would pretend I was bigger and > have a waste plan in place > anyways, just for good management > and practice. > My feed would be homegrown, and > yes there are costs. The costs are > lower than the "lost > income" from not selling the > grain, but I used the "lost > income to figure with. He already > farms many acres, so adding mine > wouldn't be a big deal. When I > rotate my crops, we will trade, so > the fields stay in good shape, but > I still get what I need for the > cows (corn, silage, hay) > My husband has two angus bulls > with very good stats. He has two > others, but I would not want to > use them. They have no records and > even if they look good on the > outside, it's what's inside that > counts. > I've considered vet costs, > including vaccinations, implants, > etc. I've considered supplements. > I've considered what would happen > if the crops fail or pasture gets > eaten by pests (that happened last > year). > I don't have experience, but I do > have some brains and I think it > could work. My biggest lack of > information is in marketing them, > but I even calculated my figures > using sale barn live cattle > prices, in case I can't figure out > any other way to selling them. I > am going to talk him into tracking > a sample of the calves he has now. > My state beef association will do > that for pretty cheap and it's > worth it to know where we stand. I > think (probably everyone does!) > that his calves will test out > pretty well. I think mine will be > better, especially if I have the > data to work with. > I can do this full-time. I would > not have to work this job, with > the 12 hour night shifts! I don't > mind walking in that special cow > pen mud, placing my arm where the > sun don't shine to see just where > that calf is at, though I do get a > little nervous standing down a > bull without something (a 2X4 will > do) in my hands. > My husband and I had a talk > tonight and I showed him some > articles on price grids. He is not > stupid, just got lazy in his old > age I guess. He is familiar with > selling hogs on a similar basis. > He sort of does things the way he > always has and doesn't worry about > making money or making payments. > He always manages. I, on the other > hand, have to figure it all up and > at least know if I have a chance > of making it before I jump in! > I appreciate the advice on going > broke in the learning curve! It > could very well turn out that way. > I hope not, but I think there are > enough resources to give it a try. > I can always sell out and pay off > the bank for the remainder of my > life! If it works as planned, then > I will make no money, but in 20 > years the place will be paid for > and my kids can enjoy it! > Is there anything I forgot? > Probably something major....got > taxes, insurance, repairs, fuel, > utilities, water....and a good > working vocabulary of those > special words for when things just > don't go as planned. > Any comments are appreciated! > Thanks you sound like a better cattleman(woman) than most..you certainly seem to have researched it thoroughly.. and it sounds like you have made up your mind.. i dont know many men who care to palpate their own cows, much less many women.. or many women who will take a 2x4 to their bulls.. LOL i am on a much smaller scale than what you are describing (i run cow/calf operation, moving into the registered stock) and i am still trying to figure out how to make them pay their way.. LOL hope you have good luck.. gene [/QUOTE]
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