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<blockquote data-quote="SRBeef" data-source="post: 640619" data-attributes="member: 7509"><p>MS I assume you mean about flies spreading disease into the cut on the newly steered calves in July?</p><p></p><p>Actually there has been no sign of fly problems yet with the castrated calves.</p><p></p><p>In the summer especially I have a rub with the hang-down "flyps" which is soaked in diesel and permythrin (sp?). All cattle including the calves need to pass under and thru this rub to get to and from the waterer several times a day. This seems to be lkeeping the body flies down. I hate to see cattle covered with flies in the summer!!!</p><p></p><p>Even though this rub does not get underneath the belly, it seems to keep all animals, including the calves fairly free of flies in the summer. If I start seeing a lot of flies on them I mix up a fresh batch of diesel and permythrin (sp?) and go down and pour a gallon or so on the rub.</p><p></p><p>Here are pictures of the rub. I let it hang down so it really covers them when they push under it to get to water.</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]1[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Since I rotationally graze, I put them in a fresh pasture with good grass and little manure directly after castration. It looks like the cows take good care of the steered calves, usually licking them clean. From what I understand the key is to keep the open cut calves from lying down in manure areas.</p><p></p><p>After grazing an area I try to drag it with my "Wingfield" drag as soon as I can after the cattle leave and are moved to a new pasture. This dragging spreads the manure patties. After draggin and a couple of good rains you don't see most of the manure and the grass grows thru where it was and you don't get the 1 foot "avoidance" zones next time that pasture is grazed. </p><p></p><p>After castration I try to put the cows and steers in an especially long-rest paddock. In about 10 days they are pretty well sealed up and flies or manure are not an issue - so far. This works in WI where we generally get reasonable rain over the summer. It may not work well in drier areas of WY. Good luck.</p><p></p><p>Jim</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SRBeef, post: 640619, member: 7509"] MS I assume you mean about flies spreading disease into the cut on the newly steered calves in July? Actually there has been no sign of fly problems yet with the castrated calves. In the summer especially I have a rub with the hang-down "flyps" which is soaked in diesel and permythrin (sp?). All cattle including the calves need to pass under and thru this rub to get to and from the waterer several times a day. This seems to be lkeeping the body flies down. I hate to see cattle covered with flies in the summer!!! Even though this rub does not get underneath the belly, it seems to keep all animals, including the calves fairly free of flies in the summer. If I start seeing a lot of flies on them I mix up a fresh batch of diesel and permythrin (sp?) and go down and pour a gallon or so on the rub. Here are pictures of the rub. I let it hang down so it really covers them when they push under it to get to water. [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGA0380_reduced_rub w fylps.JPG"]1[/ATTACH] [ATTACH type="full" alt="IMGA0373_cattle oiler_reduced.JPG"]0[/ATTACH] Since I rotationally graze, I put them in a fresh pasture with good grass and little manure directly after castration. It looks like the cows take good care of the steered calves, usually licking them clean. From what I understand the key is to keep the open cut calves from lying down in manure areas. After grazing an area I try to drag it with my "Wingfield" drag as soon as I can after the cattle leave and are moved to a new pasture. This dragging spreads the manure patties. After draggin and a couple of good rains you don't see most of the manure and the grass grows thru where it was and you don't get the 1 foot "avoidance" zones next time that pasture is grazed. After castration I try to put the cows and steers in an especially long-rest paddock. In about 10 days they are pretty well sealed up and flies or manure are not an issue - so far. This works in WI where we generally get reasonable rain over the summer. It may not work well in drier areas of WY. Good luck. Jim [/QUOTE]
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