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<blockquote data-quote="Anonymous" data-source="post: 11385"><p>I read in your post to Vicky hthat youve never had to pull a calf in 5 years. So I'm wondering, when you pulled the calf did you clean out his mouth and nostrils? its a good idea to always do that when you pull a calf as well as remove the sac from its head. Since the calf was breech it likely had some stuff in its nose and mouth b/c like i said breech calves are prone to drowning/suffocating (whatever) b/c the placenta will break during birth and the calf will have to try to breath inside the cow when its oxygen supply is cut off. and if it inhales that fluid, or milk later, it will be susceptible to pneumonia (raspyness suggests that). Same thing goes about suffocation during a normal presentation, the placenta may break and if the calf is stuck at the hips it could suffocate b/c its lungs would not be able to expand enough (very possible this happened to the other calf). I also thought perhaps the pulled calf may have died of hypothermia but i think you said it was in a barn so i decided probably not. Selenium deficiency also crossed my mind but since it sounded like the first heifer had a difficult birth(b/c you said she didnt get up immediately and clean) due to a large calf and/or lack of dilation (not uncommon for a heifer)and the other had a breech calf which is out of your and her control i think the two instances are most likely unrelated. But it certainly wouldnt hurt to get some minerals with selenium if yours don't have it just in case. Like V said, not too much though!</p><p></p><p>As far as getting the milk goes the sooner the better. if they arent dummies they will usually nurse soon after they first get up. i try to watch them so i'll know for sure, otherwise it can be hard to tell if a cow with a large udder has been nursed. I think V's recommendation is like preferably within 12 hours, 24 is good and definitely within 36 or something..you need to ask her about that. I cant afford to watch them all the time so if i;m not there to watch them when they first try to nurse i give them the benefit of the doubt and hope i can catch them nursing or tell they ahve been the next day. My absolute max would be 48 hours however last year i rescued a heifer that was going on 72 hours without having nursed and she in great health today but this is NOT recommended. the longer you wait the less immunoglobins they get and more susceptible they are to sickness. hope this helped.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Anonymous, post: 11385"] I read in your post to Vicky hthat youve never had to pull a calf in 5 years. So I'm wondering, when you pulled the calf did you clean out his mouth and nostrils? its a good idea to always do that when you pull a calf as well as remove the sac from its head. Since the calf was breech it likely had some stuff in its nose and mouth b/c like i said breech calves are prone to drowning/suffocating (whatever) b/c the placenta will break during birth and the calf will have to try to breath inside the cow when its oxygen supply is cut off. and if it inhales that fluid, or milk later, it will be susceptible to pneumonia (raspyness suggests that). Same thing goes about suffocation during a normal presentation, the placenta may break and if the calf is stuck at the hips it could suffocate b/c its lungs would not be able to expand enough (very possible this happened to the other calf). I also thought perhaps the pulled calf may have died of hypothermia but i think you said it was in a barn so i decided probably not. Selenium deficiency also crossed my mind but since it sounded like the first heifer had a difficult birth(b/c you said she didnt get up immediately and clean) due to a large calf and/or lack of dilation (not uncommon for a heifer)and the other had a breech calf which is out of your and her control i think the two instances are most likely unrelated. But it certainly wouldnt hurt to get some minerals with selenium if yours don't have it just in case. Like V said, not too much though! As far as getting the milk goes the sooner the better. if they arent dummies they will usually nurse soon after they first get up. i try to watch them so i'll know for sure, otherwise it can be hard to tell if a cow with a large udder has been nursed. I think V's recommendation is like preferably within 12 hours, 24 is good and definitely within 36 or something..you need to ask her about that. I cant afford to watch them all the time so if i;m not there to watch them when they first try to nurse i give them the benefit of the doubt and hope i can catch them nursing or tell they ahve been the next day. My absolute max would be 48 hours however last year i rescued a heifer that was going on 72 hours without having nursed and she in great health today but this is NOT recommended. the longer you wait the less immunoglobins they get and more susceptible they are to sickness. hope this helped. [/QUOTE]
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