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Lisagrantb

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Looking for a pour on for horn flies that is not a permethrin. I’ve been using the permethrin stuff a couple years and need to switch. Any good alternatives out there. Thanks
 

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Ultra Boss contains permethrin per the Internet. Using the Internet, I came up with the chemical Geraniol. Pyranha Inc makes a product called Bug Armor Zero-Bite Natural Insect Repellent Concentrate. Not sure if you would administer it like a pour-on product.

I would dilute using mineral oil rather than water. And I would spray the cattle when the fly load is heavy using a handheld sprayer. The product label states it is toxic to bees and not to use if bees are foraging in the area.
 

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Saber. It contains lambdacyhalothrin rather than permethrin. It is a good idea to rotate from time to time to prevent resistance from developing.
 

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Following is Grit's recipe he sent me for UltraBoss & Ultra Sabre:


This one is similar to UltraBoss, 6oz permithion, 6oz PBO8 and 1 qallon corn oil. I add a pint of diesel fuel because I use old 5 liter pour on wormer containers and application gun.
This one is similar to Ultra Sabre, 3 oz Lambda-cyhalothrin, 6oz PBO8 and 1 gallon of corn oil, I also add diesel fuel to this mix.


Prentox PBO-8 Synergist is an emulsifiable concentrate that synergizes most commonly used insecticides. It contains the only US-made Piperonyl Butoxide as its active ingredient and it is used as an additive in many insecticides to help enhance their performance and resistance management. It is designed to help improve control of insects and mites using lower rates. With its low risk toxicological profile, PBO-8 is safe for humans and the environment. PBO-8 can be used in a variety of different locations from residential dwellings to livestock housing. It works with different types of fogging, misting, or spray equipment to let you use it according to site or pest requirements. But, it is not to be used in outdoor residential misting systems. When mixing PBO-8 with insecticides or acaracides, please do so as listed on the product label. This product has no insecticidal activity on its own.


I use a gun full on cows, 2 gun fulls on bulls and a half a gun or less on calves. I start behind the ears and go to the tail head. The recommend dose is 3 ml per 100 lb. Reminder, the under use of insecticides creates immunity and doesn't work nearly as well.


https://www.domyown.com/prentox-pbo8-synergist-p-15604.html

https://www.domyown.com/demand-cs-p-46.html

https://www.domyown.com/permethrin-sfr-368-p-445.html
 
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Thanks for the help but a question. The chemicals that are in your recipe and Saber are Lambda-Cyhalothrin and belongs to a class of insecticides known as synthetic pyrethroids. Would this still be in the pyrethriods family as for as resistance is concerned.
 

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Thanks for the help but a question. The chemicals that are in your recipe and Saber are Lambda-Cyhalothrin and belongs to a class of insecticides known as synthetic pyrethroids. Would this still be in the pyrethriods family as for as resistance is concerned.
Different molecular structures.
 

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Prentox PBO-8 Synergist is an emulsifiable concentrate that synergizes most commonly used insecticides. It contains the only US-made Piperonyl Butoxide as its active ingredient and it is used as an additive in many insecticides to help enhance their performance and resistance management. It is designed to help improve control of insects and mites using lower rates. With its low risk toxicological profile, PBO-8 is safe for humans and the environment. PBO-8 can be used in a variety of different locations from residential dwellings to livestock housing. It works with different types of fogging, misting, or spray equipment to let you use it according to site or pest requirements. But, it is not to be used in outdoor residential misting systems. When mixing PBO-8 with insecticides or acaracides, please do so as listed on the product label. This product has no insecticidal activity on its own.

https://www.domyown.com/prentox-pbo8-synergist-p-15604.html

https://www.domyown.com/demand-cs-p-46.html

https://www.domyown.com/permethrin-sfr-368-p-445.html
I use the synergist in my mix also, but I don't use mineral oil, I just use diesel. Poor farmers got poor ways.
 

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You really have only one choice in insecticide class for livestock. Organophosphates are not available as a pour-on anymore (there are organophosphate fly tags). There was another class of insecticide called Spinosad (can’t remember brand name) that was available, but I haven’t seen it in 4-5 years and didn’t think it worked very well anyway. You’re left with pyrethroids. I have used Boss and Ultra Boss for 25 years and have not noticed any drop in efficacy. I have always used it at 1 1/2 times label dose.
 
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