novatech":2koybsr5 said:http://genex.crinet.com/addedattraction ... 45&lang=EN
Now that's one heck of a bull. I like him a lot.
Rookie Rancher":32ay59uv said:novatech":32ay59uv said:http://genex.crinet.com/addedattraction ... 45&lang=EN
Now that's one heck of a bull. I like him a lot.
I like the look of this bull too, unfortunately he's not a calving ease bull for my heifers.
Any other suggestions for moderate framed, heavy milking, growthy black gelbvieh with great phenotype to use on heifers :?:
3waycross":hxkqupxj said:Hate to disagree with Double V but, we just went thru 3 yrs of pulling calve out of a Gelbvieh bull with much more balanced confirmation. Thei bull kinda resembles him only with a much worse rear end. I believe you will find that those shoulders don't come thru the birth canal very well at all. To me he is also kinda big headed. Don't be fooled by calving ease numbers based on birth weight. We never had a calf over 85lbs in 3 yrs and we pulled every calf out of every heifer for that time frame. Some Dead some Alive. He might make a terminal sire on your older crossbred cows but I don't like him for a F-1 cross. We also were having 6 to 8 yr old cows paralized birthing 80lb calves with that Bucket headed SOB. Just my 2cents.
PS you would probably be better off breeding your heifers to a horned hereford bull anf getting some good baldies then breeding them to a continental of some kind
smuff76":2z7cfznz said:perhaps I will show my Gelbvieh ignorance here, but I have always liked this bull:
http://genex.crinet.com/addedattraction ... 45&lang=EN
He would probably make a better terminal sire as well though.
JMichal":31rlge51 said:3waycross":31rlge51 said:Hate to disagree with Double V but, we just went thru 3 yrs of pulling calve out of a Gelbvieh bull with much more balanced confirmation. Thei bull kinda resembles him only with a much worse rear end. I believe you will find that those shoulders don't come thru the birth canal very well at all. To me he is also kinda big headed. Don't be fooled by calving ease numbers based on birth weight. We never had a calf over 85lbs in 3 yrs and we pulled every calf out of every heifer for that time frame. Some Dead some Alive. He might make a terminal sire on your older crossbred cows but I don't like him for a F-1 cross. We also were having 6 to 8 yr old cows paralized birthing 80lb calves with that Bucket headed SOB. Just my 2cents.
PS you would probably be better off breeding your heifers to a horned hereford bull anf getting some good baldies then breeding them to a continental of some kind
Maybe you have a cow problem. I have angus with a touch of simmental and have been breeding them to Gelbviev bulls for 3 years. Also have some registered Gelbvieh recently cows. I have not pulled a calf in over 10 years.
3waycross":18td2jws said:JMichal":18td2jws said:3waycross":18td2jws said:Hate to disagree with Double V but, we just went thru 3 yrs of pulling calve out of a Gelbvieh bull with much more balanced confirmation. Thei bull kinda resembles him only with a much worse rear end. I believe you will find that those shoulders don't come thru the birth canal very well at all. To me he is also kinda big headed. Don't be fooled by calving ease numbers based on birth weight. We never had a calf over 85lbs in 3 yrs and we pulled every calf out of every heifer for that time frame. Some Dead some Alive. He might make a terminal sire on your older crossbred cows but I don't like him for a F-1 cross. We also were having 6 to 8 yr old cows paralized birthing 80lb calves with that Bucket headed SOB. Just my 2cents.
PS you would probably be better off breeding your heifers to a horned hereford bull anf getting some good baldies then breeding them to a continental of some kind
Maybe you have a cow problem. I have angus with a touch of simmental and have been breeding them to Gelbviev bulls for 3 years. Also have some registered Gelbvieh recently cows. I have not pulled a calf in over 10 years.
And maybe not. If he is paralizing 5 and 6 yr old 1400lb cows with 85lb calves that's not a cow problem.
I'm kinda amazed about something. How is it that everybody is looking for calving ease bulls and nobody wants to talk about having pulled any calves. Especially the seedstock breeders. Just a thought!
3waycross":3rmvhsy0 said:JMichael
I wish I could help you with that number but the papers went with the bull, and since we wern't registering his calves it's not written down anywhere that I know of. If I come across it I will PM it to you. Sorry I can't be more help. If you will pm me your email adress I will send you a couple pics that show the kind of shoulders he had, and let's not forget that big ole wash tub head.
Rookie Rancher":1e6drnu8 said:I'm picking my first bull and I'd love some opinions on this bull's phenotype.
Thanks for your help! :tiphat:
racekannon":26dzxvoi said:I love the "I have never pulled a calf" statment. BS, 5% of mature cows need help when calf is mispresented per university studies. I calfed out 45 hiefers and pulled one this fall, she tried to have it at 4:30 in the afternoon no shade by the waterer in 106 heat index gave up in heat. I guess losing cows and calves I could say that I never helped a calve also, but wouldn't think myself much of a cowman. People say this and when you ask to use their bathroom at the barn there would be chains by the sink. Come on don't insult my intellligence.