ALACOWMAN":selgw821 said:I thought it was a common practice for registered Angus breeders to sell older cows way before that age...
i guess for a seed stock producer that prime productive age is a good time to move her elsewhere ""make them the most money""....for a commercial mans replacement 6 years is just at the age to start paying for herself...elkwc":1fpu49lb said:ALACOWMAN":1fpu49lb said:I thought it was a common practice for registered Angus breeders to sell older cows way before that age...
What I see it depends on the PB breeder (both Hereford and Angus breeders). There are those that believe in the fast turnover of generations. Then there are the breeders who realize longtivity is what makes the commercial breeder money and breeds for that also. In a recent Hereford partial dispersal I looked through there were many in the 11-15 y/o range. I've seen several Angus herds the same. That is the herds and cow lines I try to buy bulls from. Had one PB Angus breeder tell me last week that by the time a bull or cow was 6 y/o they should be moved. I disagree.
ALACOWMAN":2ulncs9v said:i guess for a seed stock producer that prime productive age is a good time to move her elsewhere ""make them the most money""....for a commercial mans replacement 6 years is just at the age to start paying for herself...elkwc":2ulncs9v said:ALACOWMAN":2ulncs9v said:I thought it was a common practice for registered Angus breeders to sell older cows way before that age...
What I see it depends on the PB breeder (both Hereford and Angus breeders). There are those that believe in the fast turnover of generations. Then there are the breeders who realize longtivity is what makes the commercial breeder money and breeds for that also. In a recent Hereford partial dispersal I looked through there were many in the 11-15 y/o range. I've seen several Angus herds the same. That is the herds and cow lines I try to buy bulls from. Had one PB Angus breeder tell me last week that by the time a bull or cow was 6 y/o they should be moved. I disagree.
he's been drinking too much of that kool aid....probably getting all his experience setting at the feet of angus gurus.... the ones at the top, of the " do it this way"""pyramid.....elkwc":kzcpwobi said:ALACOWMAN":kzcpwobi said:i guess for a seed stock producer that prime productive age is a good time to move her elsewhere ""make them the most money""....for a commercial mans replacement 6 years is just at the age to start paying for herself...elkwc":kzcpwobi said:What I see it depends on the PB breeder (both Hereford and Angus breeders). There are those that believe in the fast turnover of generations. Then there are the breeders who realize longtivity is what makes the commercial breeder money and breeds for that also. In a recent Hereford partial dispersal I looked through there were many in the 11-15 y/o range. I've seen several Angus herds the same. That is the herds and cow lines I try to buy bulls from. Had one PB Angus breeder tell me last week that by the time a bull or cow was 6 y/o they should be moved. I disagree.
I agree. The PB I'm talking about was on FB. He said he could tell that I raised crappy cattle because I retained them so long. And then went on state that if you kept a cow or bull longer than 6 years you weren't progressing your herd. We are each entitled to our opinions. And like you I feel a cow don't start making money until her 5-6 y/o years. And that was just one breeders opinions I know many who would disagree.