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<blockquote data-quote="Lucky_P" data-source="post: 729281" data-attributes="member: 12607"><p>Right. I never said that lupines weren't toxic, and they have been well-documented to cause arthrogryposis(curly calf) - but that's primarily in areas well west of the Mississippi. </p><p></p><p>My point was that lupines are not at all common anywhere in the Southeastern US - even folks who TRY to grow them here for ornamental purposes have a hard time getting them to make a go of it. With 50+ yrs in the cattle business and 25+ yrs veterinary experience - mostly in the Southeast, I've never knowingly even seen a lupine growing in a pasture, and have never really suspected lupines as a cause of congenital anomalies in this part of the country.</p><p></p><p>Lupines don't even make the lists of common 'poisonous' plants for the Southeastern US.</p><p><a href="http://www.caf.wvu.edu/~forage/library/poisonous/" target="_blank">http://www.caf.wvu.edu/~forage/library/poisonous/</a></p><p>Since the original poster is in VA, I didn't feel that it was a stretch to discount the likelihood of lupines being the cause of their abnormal calf.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lucky_P, post: 729281, member: 12607"] Right. I never said that lupines weren't toxic, and they have been well-documented to cause arthrogryposis(curly calf) - but that's primarily in areas well west of the Mississippi. My point was that lupines are not at all common anywhere in the Southeastern US - even folks who TRY to grow them here for ornamental purposes have a hard time getting them to make a go of it. With 50+ yrs in the cattle business and 25+ yrs veterinary experience - mostly in the Southeast, I've never knowingly even seen a lupine growing in a pasture, and have never really suspected lupines as a cause of congenital anomalies in this part of the country. Lupines don't even make the lists of common 'poisonous' plants for the Southeastern US. [url=http://www.caf.wvu.edu/~forage/library/poisonous/]http://www.caf.wvu.edu/~forage/library/poisonous/[/url] Since the original poster is in VA, I didn't feel that it was a stretch to discount the likelihood of lupines being the cause of their abnormal calf. [/QUOTE]
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