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Irregardless of the politics, I wish you a speedy recovery and I'm glad they found it.
I am totally with you on this one.highgrit":2oavret1 said:Quite a few folks are happy with their insurance up north. But their the one's that have lived off the government for years during the winter. In the south obama care is hurting more folks than it's helping, we don't get unemployment in the winter because the river is froze over. I don't think the government has a right to tell me what to do. You can bet your last dollar, that the red state's don't get the benefits that the blue ones do. I hate liberals.
keysbottles":34zjfcdr said:I have medicare and am happy with it. My wife is 62 and retired on 1-1-14. She has preexisting conditions and if not for OC, could not find H/ ins. The OC that she bought has great coverages, with low deductibles and copay,,,much better than the policy that she had as a Missouri teacher.
Subsidy,,,I filled out the app back when the site was all screwed up and made a mistake on our income. I only counted the taxable retirement income, not Soc. sec and based on that income our premium was $94 per month. Two people filing jointly with less than $64.000 house whole income will get a subsidy i.e. lower premium. two people with $27,000 house whole income will pay $94. Two people with income above $64,000 will pay $650. I am not an expert and all of the above info is based on my situation of "two" person house whole and insurance coverage for "one" person. The subsidy is based on a sliding scale of income.
I know that all situations are different but for us we love her Obama care insurance. My four children have HI through their work and I have not heard complaints from them. My opinion about the controversies involving Obama care and most other political issues on the news is fired by the self serving extremist, both left and right. I've spent most of my life as a business owner or contractor and learned that there are very few things that are black or white. I consider the success of about everything from business to my 45 year marriage is based on compromise.
kerley":1v4boc6g said:Wait and see, It's not over till the fat lady sings.skyhightree1":1v4boc6g said:The realistic and unfortunate thing is no matter what you do program and law wise not everyone is going to be happy or pleased
That being said Obamacare has not helped nor hurt my insurance.
highgrit":3vgk1vnl said:I hate liberals.
skyhightree1":2p1qs0if said:If I remember correctly after my youngest was born we owed 700.00 and the insurance paid like 21k or something like that. I thought am really glad someone part of the C.T. forum has been helped by it.
HDRider":1f7inn5a said:The taxpayer funded subsidy dropped it from $650, or more I guess if you income is more, to $94. So taxpayers like me pay 86% of your insurance.
Caustic Burno":3aen7loj said:Then years later the country elect's a socialist sympathetic camel rider to office singing Big Rock Candy Mountain.
YOu dam sure didn't see any compromise in Obamacare. It was rammed down our throats with not even those voting for it knowing what it contained, then it is mandated that you either get it, get your own policy that meets Obamacare standards or you get fined. Their are no compromises...only demands chiseled in stone !!keysbottles":395dacrr said:I've spent most of my life as a business owner or contractor and learned that there are very few things that are black or white. I consider the success of about everything from business to my 45 year marriage is based on compromise.
You'd be surprised how cheap you get somethign now if you simply say "patient pay...I have no insurance". But Obamacare will eliminate that too I'm afraid.gimpyrancher":1jdjmpzj said:skyhightree1":1jdjmpzj said:If I remember correctly after my youngest was born we owed 700.00 and the insurance paid like 21k or something like that. I thought am really glad someone part of the C.T. forum has been helped by it.
I have my hospital bill from when I was born (1951). It was $100 and a few pennies. No where on the bill did it say anything was paid by an insurance company. But that was long before hospitals went from a community services to a for profit private hospital.
First point. Medicare you and I paid in - That part you got right. ACA is pure wealth redistribution. The insurance has a cost, and then it has a subsidy. The more you earn, the higher the insurance cost and the lower the subsidy, down to no subsidy for high earners. Low earners get high subsidies and higher earners pay for their insurance, plus pay the subsidy for the low earners.gimpyrancher":1k28nzmn said:HDRider":1k28nzmn said:The taxpayer funded subsidy dropped it from $650, or more I guess if you income is more, to $94. So taxpayers like me pay 86% of your insurance.
No you don't. Not anymore than you subsidize my Medicare coverage I paid for my entire working life.
Looking at taxes the way you view the affordable care act, the bottom taxpayers subsidize your taxes by hundreds of percents. Can't have it both ways.