O.K. cost of terminal sire
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certherfbeef
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Terminal sire. You are not keeping any heifers to retain?
My terminal sire provides me with the cross that my show steer buyers want. Also provides me with a quality and consistant product for the feedlot. Which is after all, where a terminal calf will end up.
My area likes quality. But quality black sells better than quality red. So, I use a black terminal sire. Also because I'm lazy, my choice for a terminal sire will throw a polled head most of the time.
Also need to be thick to appeal to the steer jocks and 4-H steer buyers.
I lean toward a composite bull that will toss out a average size calf but grow them off well too. Also needs to compliment your cows attributes and correct their faults. Every cow has a fault.
Most of your choice for a terminal sire will depend on your location and what kind of market you have.
But any sire needs to be sound in every way so you get 100% of your cows bred and a calf crop on the ground.
My terminal sire provides me with the cross that my show steer buyers want. Also provides me with a quality and consistant product for the feedlot. Which is after all, where a terminal calf will end up.
My area likes quality. But quality black sells better than quality red. So, I use a black terminal sire. Also because I'm lazy, my choice for a terminal sire will throw a polled head most of the time.
Also need to be thick to appeal to the steer jocks and 4-H steer buyers.
I lean toward a composite bull that will toss out a average size calf but grow them off well too. Also needs to compliment your cows attributes and correct their faults. Every cow has a fault.
Most of your choice for a terminal sire will depend on your location and what kind of market you have.
But any sire needs to be sound in every way so you get 100% of your cows bred and a calf crop on the ground.
See if this will help:
http://www.lifestyleblock.co.nz/article ... ull%20cost?
There is also a formula out for registered bulls/cattle which is something like:
You should expect to pay at least 22 times the cwt price of a 300/400 lb feeder calf in the sale barn, or 28 times a 500/600 lbs calf...something like that. So if a 300 lb wt calf brings .90, then .90 x 22 = $1,980. I believe this formula has to due with the market adjustments and profit potential. I may not have the weights right but it's close.
http://www.lifestyleblock.co.nz/article ... ull%20cost?
There is also a formula out for registered bulls/cattle which is something like:
You should expect to pay at least 22 times the cwt price of a 300/400 lb feeder calf in the sale barn, or 28 times a 500/600 lbs calf...something like that. So if a 300 lb wt calf brings .90, then .90 x 22 = $1,980. I believe this formula has to due with the market adjustments and profit potential. I may not have the weights right but it's close.
Here's a couple more:
http://www.noble.org/Ag/Livestock/BunchOBull/
http://animalscience.tamu.edu/ansc/publ ... etypes.pdf
Here is an Exerpt from an article:
A producer has a large herd of medium frame cattle and plans to breed some of his mature cows to a terminal sire. All calves will be placed in the feed lot. The producer will want to maximize weaning and yearling weight EPDs. He will have a higher tolerance for birth weight than other Producers (crossbreeding, replacements etc.), but he should still avoid bulls with extremely high birth weight EPDs. Since all heifers are going into the feedlot, milk EPDs are not a factor. A larger framed bull may be desirable to produce a specific carcass weight. A heavy muscled bull would also be desirable.
http://www.noble.org/Ag/Livestock/BunchOBull/
http://animalscience.tamu.edu/ansc/publ ... etypes.pdf
Here is an Exerpt from an article:
A producer has a large herd of medium frame cattle and plans to breed some of his mature cows to a terminal sire. All calves will be placed in the feed lot. The producer will want to maximize weaning and yearling weight EPDs. He will have a higher tolerance for birth weight than other Producers (crossbreeding, replacements etc.), but he should still avoid bulls with extremely high birth weight EPDs. Since all heifers are going into the feedlot, milk EPDs are not a factor. A larger framed bull may be desirable to produce a specific carcass weight. A heavy muscled bull would also be desirable.
farmer rich
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Frame, growth and muscle. Maternal characteristics not important. You would probably also want to consider marbling which is not an issue for us in the UK, although it may be in the future. Limousin and charolais fullfill my criteria. Limo on heifers and small cows, chars on bigger cows
