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<blockquote data-quote="FungusProudKY31" data-source="post: 1697932" data-attributes="member: 40881"><p>Tried Estansia, BaroptimaPlus and maybe another one but not Max Q on newly cleared land. In SC, the Max Q I've seen never gets out of the row pattern even after years. A researcher who knows told me it was a first step and the endophyte was not what they really needed. All said, the Persist orchardgrass I added to the stands have outperformed the novels and we are in a marginal area for orchardgrass. My efforts were purely to satisfy myself to know what will or will not work. If you want once and done - plant KY31 and take the great advice from above:</p><p></p><p>"I am of the opinion that diluting pasture with red and white clover, maintaining soil Ph of 6-6.5, and culling based off susceptibility is a better operating method for myself. The reason why is mainly that KY31 will creep back in eventually as I can't control the neighbors and it's everywhere around here. It's a matter of when, not if."</p><p></p><p>Our soils here are largely ruined from 100+ years of cotton and erosion. A quality mineral is a luxury to some but a necessity here. Be sure that the Zn, Cu and Se are good sources and enough and be sure it has iodine to keep down hoof issues. </p><p></p><p>And my opinion again - I think it is slightly dishonest for extension gurus to talk folks into the expense and lost grazing of renovation and not produce research to tell what we all know in that KY31 will rule again one day. Tell us how long that is going to be. It ties heavily into the economics. </p><p></p><p>Animal selection is the key. We strip graze in winter and breed in the spring on KY31 and the calving seasons for the past 2 years have been 46 and 47 days. Calf weights are good to almost too big while the information is that KY31 suppresses BW. Sometimes you have to think for yourself and know who funds the research. I hate it is that way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FungusProudKY31, post: 1697932, member: 40881"] Tried Estansia, BaroptimaPlus and maybe another one but not Max Q on newly cleared land. In SC, the Max Q I've seen never gets out of the row pattern even after years. A researcher who knows told me it was a first step and the endophyte was not what they really needed. All said, the Persist orchardgrass I added to the stands have outperformed the novels and we are in a marginal area for orchardgrass. My efforts were purely to satisfy myself to know what will or will not work. If you want once and done - plant KY31 and take the great advice from above: "I am of the opinion that diluting pasture with red and white clover, maintaining soil Ph of 6-6.5, and culling based off susceptibility is a better operating method for myself. The reason why is mainly that KY31 will creep back in eventually as I can't control the neighbors and it's everywhere around here. It's a matter of when, not if." Our soils here are largely ruined from 100+ years of cotton and erosion. A quality mineral is a luxury to some but a necessity here. Be sure that the Zn, Cu and Se are good sources and enough and be sure it has iodine to keep down hoof issues. And my opinion again - I think it is slightly dishonest for extension gurus to talk folks into the expense and lost grazing of renovation and not produce research to tell what we all know in that KY31 will rule again one day. Tell us how long that is going to be. It ties heavily into the economics. Animal selection is the key. We strip graze in winter and breed in the spring on KY31 and the calving seasons for the past 2 years have been 46 and 47 days. Calf weights are good to almost too big while the information is that KY31 suppresses BW. Sometimes you have to think for yourself and know who funds the research. I hate it is that way. [/QUOTE]
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