sedrick_hall
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Has anyone out there have any experiences with moving Angus cows raised up North down South?
Most of our herd was bought in Mt. and SD. I preferr to buy spring hfrs. weaned off the cows in Oct and Nov.and ship them directly at that time of year. Never had any trouble breedin and settling. Have a cow bought in Mt. with late Sept calf, rebred and settled on first service AI and calved Oct. 16. She was in transit and stopped at another farm for 2 weeks enroute here.sedrick_hall":aae62fxf said:Has anyone out there have any experiences with moving Angus cows raised up North down South?
Ryan":1ecpxy1e said:Would there be similar problems going the other way? Say taking a cow from Texas to Kansas or somewhere else up north?
TheBullLady":2rxvq1h4 said:I would think twice about moving a lot of black hided cattle south.![]()
txshowmom":34s1eonz said:When you say up north how far north are you talking. We bought a bred Maine/Angus cow in Caneda and brought her to Texas. She had her calf without and problems but she never did breed back. We also bought a couple of cows in Kansas one never bred, the other bred once, calved and never bred back.
txshowmom":236hrrqf said:When you say up north how far north are you talking. We bought a bred Maine/Angus cow in Caneda and brought her to Texas. She had her calf without and problems but she never did breed back. We also bought a couple of cows in Kansas one never bred, the other bred once, calved and never bred back.
redwhiteface":1zy8atld said:txshowmom":1zy8atld said:When you say up north how far north are you talking. We bought a bred Maine/Angus cow in Caneda and brought her to Texas. She had her calf without and problems but she never did breed back. We also bought a couple of cows in Kansas one never bred, the other bred once, calved and never bred back.
This sounds more like a management problem than a change in temperature problem. Or, maybe it was just the cattle. Ya think???
redangus":1ib2visu said:The grasses in Montana, Wyoming, SD and so forth have much more nutrients in them than the grasses down south. I've heard that cattle must eat 2 to 3 times more to get the same nutrients when they move south. Cattle on the so called "hard grasses" of the North do a lot better and have an adjustment period when they come south. Cattle in the south do much better when the make the journey to the North pasture wise...of course they must be able to handle the cold.
txshowmom":29pwuse3 said:We bought a bred Maine/Angus cow in Caneda and brought her to Texas.
bubchub":2lvai1bb said:redangus":2lvai1bb said:The grasses in Montana, Wyoming, SD and so forth have much more nutrients in them than the grasses down south. I've heard that cattle must eat 2 to 3 times more to get the same nutrients when they move south. Cattle on the so called "hard grasses" of the North do a lot better and have an adjustment period when they come south. Cattle in the south do much better when the make the journey to the North pasture wise...of course they must be able to handle the cold.
He is right the grass does have a lot more nutrients in the north than in the south. I think it also depends on their age. We bought a 6-7 year old Brangus bull from Oklahoma and moved it down and it thinned down to nothing and he also ate us out of house and home. We gave him about 25lbs of 12% cubes almost everyday. Sold him and started over with 18-20 month old angus bulls from Missouri and they are doing just fine.
sillco":3c61792u said:bubchub":3c61792u said:redangus":3c61792u said:The grasses in Montana, Wyoming, SD and so forth have much more nutrients in them than the grasses down south. I've heard that cattle must eat 2 to 3 times more to get the same nutrients when they move south. Cattle on the so called "hard grasses" of the North do a lot better and have an adjustment period when they come south. Cattle in the south do much better when the make the journey to the North pasture wise...of course they must be able to handle the cold.
He is right the grass does have a lot more nutrients in the north than in the south. I think it also depends on their age. We bought a 6-7 year old Brangus bull from Oklahoma and moved it down and it thinned down to nothing and he also ate us out of house and home. We gave him about 25lbs of 12% cubes almost everyday. Sold him and started over with 18-20 month old angus bulls from Missouri and they are doing just fine.
Also moving cattle from west to east is not disirable. As you move west the stronger the grass. When moving cattle west to east the cattle have to eat more to maintane their body condition. The cool season grasses up north are much stronger than the warm season grasses in the south. If you don't believe it just plant ryegrass sometime and see the additional pounds you can carry on it.