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[Texican]

Since I've newly aquired this property, and fenced it in, I haven't built pens, or chutes yet. It is on the list for this year.
I do know the time is quickly approaching, when I'll need to "work" my two cows.

I know I won't be able to give them shots, but is there a spray on pest control, that I can use a pump up sprayer to apply? the cows are pretty tame, and often, while feeding I walk within a foot or two of them. they aren't skeery at all.

 

[dun]

There are pour on wormers and pour on insecticides, I like Ultra Boss for insecticide. When you first build your working facilitys don;t build them permanent to the point that they can;t be easily changed., you'll eventually figure out what works best for you and the cows. If you plan on alwasy staying at a smallish number of cows, see if one of the older dairys around has any sections of headlock stanchions. They were ussully built 3 to a section. The ones I like are opened and closed by one lever at the end and can be set to auto catch. The only real drawback to them is if you're trying to do something behind them, like AI, they can whip their butts from side to side faster then you can run back and forth with you're arm in their butt.
I've bought them from old dairys for 3-5 dollars a hole, but steel prices are up and they probably are worth more as scrap then that.

 

[Caustic Burno]

There are pour on wormers and pour on insecticides, I like Ultra Boss for insecticide. When you first build your working facilitys don;t build them permanent to the point that they can;t be easily changed., you'll eventually figure out what works best for you and the cows. If you plan on alwasy staying at a smallish number of cows, see if one of the older dairys around has any sections of headlock stanchions. They were ussully built 3 to a section. The ones I like are opened and closed by one lever at the end and can be set to auto catch. The only real drawback to them is if you're trying to do something behind them, like AI, they can whip their butts from side to side faster then you can run back and forth with you're arm in their butt.
I've bought them from old dairys for 3-5 dollars a hole, but steel prices are up and they probably are worth more as scrap then that.

Just to add to Dun's info I don't know what kind of cattle you have but you have to be careful with insectides on Brammer cattle.

 

[Texican]

Mr. dun, do you think those pour ons, would work thru a pump up sprayer?

 

[Caustic Burno]

Mr. dun, do you think those pour ons, would work thru a pump up sprayer?

You have to control the dosage here Cowboy you fixin to end up with a train that has jumped the tracks.
You could easily have some very sick bovines on your hands. You need a mentor.

 

[dun]

Mr. dun, do you think those pour ons, would work thru a pump up sprayer?

Way to thick but could maybe be thinned down some. In the bubs I use Permectrin II mixed with diesel, that would go through a sprayer just fine. Don;t know about the pour on wormers, never have used them.

 

[dun]

Mr. dun, do you think those pour ons, would work thru a pump up sprayer?

No Mr., just dun, all lower case!

 

[Texican]

Mr. dun, do you think those pour ons, would work thru a pump up sprayer?

No Mr., just dun, all lower case!

I'm sure you are much older than me, besides the fact, that I am asking alot of questions. I am sorry you don't appreciate the showing of respect. In the future, I'll try to be a bit more disrespectful.

actually, the Mr. was said tongue in cheek, after reading through several of your posts.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Mr. dun, do you think those pour ons, would work thru a pump up sprayer?

Way to thick but could maybe be thinned down some. In the bubs I use Permectrin II mixed with diesel, that would go through a sprayer just fine. Don;t know about the pour on wormers, never have used them.

Do not use permectrin on Brimmers. There something about it on Brimmer calves I can't remember.
I know I killed a dam fine Gert Bull with fly spray.
http://www.mycattle.com/health/updates/ ... gement.cfm

 

[Texican]

both cows are Brangus, one of them showing a much stronger Brahma than the other.

I'm thinking since both cows are fairly tame, and will follow me, while I carry a bucket of rocks, lol, I could build just a chute, add the pen later.

I'm sure too, the local vet, should be able to advise me on doses, and application techniques.

Once again, I see my easy way, is by no means the best, or even safest way. thanks for your comments fellas.

 

[backhoeboogie]

actually, the Mr. was said tongue in cheek, after reading through several of your posts.

Read them all and you won't regret it. I liked Caustic and Msscamp's too. There are others.

 

[Caustic Burno]

both cows are Brangus, one of them showing a much stronger Brahma than the other.

I'm thinking since both cows are fairly tame, and will follow me, while I carry a bucket of rocks, lol, I could build just a chute, add the pen later.

I'm sure too, the local vet, should be able to advise me on doses, and application techniques.

Once again, I see my easy way, is by no means the best, or even safest way. thanks for your comments fellas.

Now there is a oxymoron tame Brangus. I got some of them to. Every one of them can get hotter than a firecracker and the all have matches to lite the fuse. If one brangus gets worked up all of them are.

 

[Texican]

both cows are Brangus, one of them showing a much stronger Brahma than the other.

I'm thinking since both cows are fairly tame, and will follow me, while I carry a bucket of rocks, lol, I could build just a chute, add the pen later.

I'm sure too, the local vet, should be able to advise me on doses, and application techniques.

Once again, I see my easy way, is by no means the best, or even safest way. thanks for your comments fellas.

Now there is a oxymoron tame Brangus. I got some of them to. Every one of them can get hotter than a firecracker and the all have matches to lite the fuse. If one brangus gets worked up all of them are.

LOL

maybe I'm prettier than you, and not as scary looking?

I have heard that about them, and believe me, when I do have to walk amoungst'em, I walk softly and carry a big stick. lol

I do know some history on the two cows I have, and they have been people safe through out their many years. ie worked, and fed.

 

[Caustic Burno]

You keep thinking that way as tame cows are the ones that kill people.
I am through with this thread.

 

[backhoeboogie]

maybe I'm prettier than you

Good point

 

[Caustic Burno]

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[Texican]

I'm never not careful when in a pen or even in the pasture with any cows.

Bruno, thanks for the head's up on SK-Surekill Brand Pyrethrin Plus Fly Spray, I wouldn't have known.

and please fellas, don't let my flippant remarks lead you to believe, that I am not cautious with those cows.

I was merely pointing out, that if possible, I could get close enough to them to use a pump up sprayer, as an application device. I see now, that this isn't the best technique, and rest assured, I will use a safe method.

 

[Caustic Burno]

Texican just cuz they are tame when you walk among them and they will follow you with a bucket you still need to be careful. My brangus are gentle as lambs in the pasture and will eat feed out of my hand and even let me scratch em. Once they are penned however all bets are off and they become killers with gate crashing, pen breaking, killer instinct. They get all the others riled up. They taught me how to really build a pen. The one I have now will keep them in but dag nabbit it took trial and error. Ever seen a brangus cow jump a 6 foot high fence made out of woven cattle panels and corral panels? I have and she cleared it standing flat footed and weighed 1350 and was preggo to boot.

I have seen it as they were right behind me, the only thing more gentle is the Tigers. The Gerts are pretty rough as well family used to run quite a few of the hateful things.

 

[KNERSIE]

Do not apply to animals under 6 months of age. Brahman or Brahman Cross cattle should not be treated, as they may show hypersensitivity to organophosphates

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Guess we are never to old to learn new things, I didn't know that.

Caustic, why do you reckon tigers are so hot tempered? I would have thought the hereford in them would have a calming influence. I have seen a few gerts (through binoculors) at a neighbour's place that you have to hunt as there is no way you could ever get them loaded or penned. They won't even come for feed when people are around.

 

[backhoeboogie]

Ever seen a brangus cow jump a 6 foot high fence made out of woven cattle panels and corral panels?

The third time I penned one like that, she finally went in the trailer and I hauled her back to the sale barn. Previous sale tags were still on her hip.

She had tried to jump a cut gate and I pulled it to me with her landing on top. Then I would slam her with it. Back and forth for a long time. I was more stubborn than she.