thanks the caalves are awsome and the pic of the mom isnt good she should have her calf soon ill post a pic of or should i say someone else will if i cant when she has her calf she is short but not to short she come runnin for feed and raises a good calf the owner and lots of peopl have said.. The owaner said that when he sold her calf this year it came close to matching a calf botn two months befor...well wish me luch with them