Thanks for the comments. I really likke talking cattle. Like one post said lots of corn in Iowa not many cattle men. As to his ancestery I can only say this HE IS AS PUREBRED AS ANYTHING I HAVE EVER SEEN. He is not registerd so I would have to buy the paper then put it on the roll to make the paper usefull. Besides us real cowboys get by with less than paper anyway! As to the pigment around the eyes We have selected for that seems to give us less problems with pink eye. If you will look at the cow directly behind him in the first pic you will see a half sister to him and she has much the same google eye. As to his big head it only seems like that in the pics. He is big a 4.5 frame bull according to my vet. wieghs around 1900 by the eye. Last years calf crop didn't assist a single birth. Wouldn't want to use him on new heifers but that is more from his size than his calfs though his calves do run to the high side in size. Last year they averaged 87 lbs. the high was 94 every body wants a little smaller calf but my cows do Ok with him. This will be his last year with me though unless I can find more pasture to split the cows up he will have some daughters running with him next year. Hey how about some comments on something other than his color anyway. Last I checked Nobody eats the hair. JR