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I don't think that many people eat that much red meat every single day. I eat it quite a few times a week but I exercise and get all the other foods I need too so I am not too worried about it. Why worry about it and be unhappy? I'd rather eat what I enjoy and die feeling fulfilled. Everything in moderation :D
 
LoveMoo11":19vy7228 said:
I don't think that many people eat that much red meat every single day. I eat it quite a few times a week but I exercise and get all the other foods I need too so I am not too worried about it. Why worry about it and be unhappy? I'd rather eat what I enjoy and die feeling fulfilled. Everything in moderation :D
At least daily, more if I can. I'll take my chances. :nod:
 
LoveMoo11":1kotgo4y said:
I don't think that many people eat that much red meat every single day.

4 ounces??? My morning sausage patty I eat on a biscuit with eggs at 6:30 am EVERY DAY (unless I have bacon) is 4 ounces. Throw in 3-4 steaks (6-10 ounces each), a pork chop, 5 or 6 burgers, some beef fajitas/burritos/tacos/enchiladas, 3 or 4 hot dogs, 8 ounces of roast, pizza toppings, and a generous helping of braunschweiser, summer sausage, bologna, and vienna sausage snacks (plus the chicken and catfish) and you have my typical week.
 
Brandonm22":11wvyb67 said:
LoveMoo11":11wvyb67 said:
I don't think that many people eat that much red meat every single day.

4 ounces??? My morning sausage patty I eat on a biscuit with eggs at 6:30 am EVERY DAY (unless I have bacon) is 4 ounces. Throw in 3-4 steaks (6-10 ounces each), a pork chop, 5 or 6 burgers, some beef fajitas/burritos/tacos/enchiladas, 3 or 4 hot dogs, 8 ounces of roast, pizza toppings, and a generous helping of braunschweiser, summer sausage, bologna, and vienna sausage snacks out of the can ?(plus the chicken and catfish) and you have my typical week.


Well as long as your around Brandonm the red meat industry has nothing to worry about.. :lol2:

What is braunshweiser ???
 
:lol2: That's what I'm talking about, Brandon! Love that Braunschweiger myself. It's smoked liverwurst, HD.
 
Brandonm22":29i5o9lw said:
LoveMoo11":29i5o9lw said:
I don't think that many people eat that much red meat every single day.

4 ounces??? My morning sausage patty I eat on a biscuit with eggs at 6:30 am EVERY DAY (unless I have bacon) is 4 ounces. Throw in 3-4 steaks (6-10 ounces each), a pork chop, 5 or 6 burgers, some beef fajitas/burritos/tacos/enchiladas, 3 or 4 hot dogs, 8 ounces of roast, pizza toppings, and a generous helping of braunschweiser, summer sausage, bologna, and vienna sausage snacks (plus the chicken and catfish) and you have my typical week.

6-10 oz steaks. :shock: Gee Brandonm you might want to talk to your butcher about cutting them puppies a lil bigger. After all, if you don't get your body acclimated to cholesterol now you might die young and deprive yourself of years of pleasure you will enjoy when someone else is wiping your tee-hiney in a nursing home.
 
Brandonm22":38ko7gcu said:
LoveMoo11":38ko7gcu said:
I don't think that many people eat that much red meat every single day.

4 ounces??? My morning sausage patty I eat on a biscuit with eggs at 6:30 am EVERY DAY (unless I have bacon) is 4 ounces. Throw in 3-4 steaks (6-10 ounces each), a pork chop, 5 or 6 burgers, some beef fajitas/burritos/tacos/enchiladas, 3 or 4 hot dogs, 8 ounces of roast, pizza toppings, and a generous helping of braunschweiser, summer sausage, bologna, and vienna sausage snacks (plus the chicken and catfish) and you have my typical week.

My day is not that much different. It doesn't take much to get 4oz. The CNN report was very vague, like they always are. Eat 4oz. of red meat, die early.
I can just see people in the store reaching for a steak to BBQ, remembering the CNN report, and getting Chicken instead.
 
It had to be a slow news day. Maybe the problem is the piddly small amount of meat they eat instead of a decent size portion
 
Brandonm22":hnnf3yu1 said:
LoveMoo11":hnnf3yu1 said:
I don't think that many people eat that much red meat every single day.

4 ounces??? My morning sausage patty I eat on a biscuit with eggs at 6:30 am EVERY DAY (unless I have bacon) is 4 ounces. Throw in 3-4 steaks (6-10 ounces each), a pork chop, 5 or 6 burgers, some beef fajitas/burritos/tacos/enchiladas, 3 or 4 hot dogs, 8 ounces of roast, pizza toppings, and a generous helping of braunschweiser, summer sausage, bologna, and vienna sausage snacks (plus the chicken and catfish) and you have my typical week.

It's a good thing you raise beef. You would be in the poor house if you had to buy that much beef weekly.Course come to think about it I also eat more beef than 4 oz a day.
 
Brandonm22 is a good old fashioned meat-eater. I fancy myself as one also. However, I fear him and I at the same table would only lead to a serious fork injury on one or both of our persons. :lol2:
 
What a bunch of pigeon pucky! These studies are just lining someone somewhere's pocket....we are all gonna die some day of something. There is mercury in fish. Don't eat butter cuz its fat (well hello, of course it is, we need fat in our diets). Don't drink caffine ... bla bla bla. It is all propaganda.
When I die I hope it is with a full belly of my favorite foods and cow $hit on my boots.
 
This was a note I just got this AM from Cornell Beef Specialist:
Folks,

No doubt you have seen/heard the results of the study referred to in this release. What follows is the National Cattlemen's Beef Association response and suggestions.

Use as best you see fit.

Mike

New study connects meat intake and mortality
March 23, 2009

A study published today in the Archives of Internal Medicine associates red and processed meat intakes with modest increases in total mortality, cancer mortality and cardiovascular disease mortality. Researchers from the National Institutes of Health's (NIH) National Cancer Institute followed a half a million people aged 50 to 71 years old for 10 years and investigated more than 70,000 mortalities.

The Associated Press, WebMD and the News & Observer (North Carolina) contacted us about the study, and we submitted a statement from beef industry spokesperson and NCBA Executive Director of Human Nutrition Research Shalene McNeill, Ph.D. We anticipate this study will receive widespread media coverage.

In addition to the study itself, the Archives also published an accompanying editorial from Barry Popkins, Ph.D., with the University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill. He calls today's publication timely because "There is a global tsunami brewing, namely, we are seeing the confluence of growing constraints on water, energy and food supplies combined with the rapid shift toward greater consumption of all animal source foods." Popkins' solution is to recommend a "major reduction in total meat intake."

Several third-party scientists reviewed this study and found, as with past studies, the reported change in relative risk is a comparison between the extremes – those consuming the most and the least amounts of red meat. Overall, the study does not address the effect of eating meat (of various types) when consumed at recommended intake levels, in a balanced diet with appropriate levels of fruits, vegetables, fiber, etc. combined with maintenance of ideal body weight and adequate exercise.

The Center for Consumer Freedom (CCF) issued a press release quoting CCF Director of Research David Martosko as saying, "It's ridiculous to try to separate our diets from our lifestyles. Nobody eats in a vacuum, and countless variables go into figuring out when we die. This study's data connect mortality with smoking, a lack of exercise, taking daily vitamins, and even marriage. It's silly to suggest that any single factor is the biggest one."

The brief talking points that follow provide a basic response platform; however, please direct media inquiries to NCBA so we can help connect reporters with our nutrition experts (contact Daren Williams at 303/850-3346 or [email protected]). We are monitoring for broadcast and additional print coverage of the news.

Funded by The Beef Checkoff

Meat Intake and Mortality Study Talking Points
3/23/09

As is often the case with epidemiological research on this subject, it is hard to draw substantial conclusions about any one food.
Epidemiologic research provides information about the distribution and determinants of disease for further study, but it does not establish cause and effect.
· This latest research is complicated by the fact that study participants exhibited unhealthy behaviors such as smoking, lack of physical activity and maintaining a higher body mass index, which are known risk factors for chronic disease.

What can be concluded from this study is that a balanced diet and overall healthy lifestyle can make a difference in helping prevent chronic disease.
· The science is clear about the important steps we all can take to help decrease risk: Avoid smoking, use alcohol responsibly, eat a balanced diet, be physically active, maintain a healthy weight and eat a nutrient-rich, balanced diet of fruits, vegetables, whole grains, low- and nonfat dairy and lean meats.

U.S. Dietary Guidelines recommend the average adult eat 5.5 ounces from the meat group each day, and nothing about this latest research suggest any changes in that advice.
 
:lol: :lol: Who conducted this study? The Pork council? :lol: :lol:

It's kind of like Coke putting out reports that Pepsi leads to higher death rates. (I'm sure that really didn't happen), but it makes you wonder who is conducting the studies. :???:
 
I didn't go through it word for word, but it looks like this study ignored what some other factors could be and placed everything on the shoulders of red meat.

For instance, I am guessing that people who eat less red meat for health reasons also pay attention to other areas in their live to be healthy. They are probably also much more likely to avoid a lot of junk food, and also are more likely to excercise regularly, and less likely to be heavy smokers. I would think there are many more reasons that have a greater impact on these peoples health than eating red meat does.
 
Reminds me of the commercials that have the Holstein cows holding signs that say Eat More Chicken. I think Chick-fil-a must have conducted this study. :lol:
 

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