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<blockquote data-quote="Son of Butch" data-source="post: 1754563" data-attributes="member: 14585"><p>Hays Converter is a black white faced breed, started in 1957 and recognized as a breed since 1975. I am very impressed with the reasoning and selection of the foundation animals and subsequent generations to develop a breed for the harsh conditions of Western Canada. They perform quite well in that environment. But flopped when used outside of Western Canada.</p><p></p><p>Hayes Converter met the inspection criteria to become a recognized breed.</p><p>Black Hereford is not a recognized breed.</p><p></p><p>Black Hereford corporation founded in 1994 by polled Hereford breeder John Gage.</p><p>Goal: To eliminate red baldie calves and produce strictly polled black baldies by using black angus bulls for heterosis.</p><p>1997 first animal registered to the corporation: BHJ Balder 7504 (bull)</p><p>angus and hereford parentage: unknown</p><p><strong>1998</strong> Gage's Black Hereford herd and corporation records sold to J&N Ranch Leavenworth, Kansas. J&N used Gage's black hereford bulls in their commercial herd for a few years before selling the commercial herd to focus on promoting, registry and marketing their Black Herefords around 2003.</p><p>J&N doing business as the American Black Hereford Association, has over 300 members and register an estimated 1500+ hd per year. To qualify for registration an animal needs to be a minimum of 62.5% Black hereford or hereford and black in color.</p><p>So they can be 37.5% of anything and still be a registered black hereford.</p><p>87.5% to be purebred Black Hereford.</p><p></p><p>I couldn't find any performance data for comparison with Charolais or SimAngus cattle. I bet Black Hereford would knock the socks off of Hays Converters when used in Kansas. But I'd put my money on both Charolais and SimAngus to beat both Black Herefords and Hays Converters in performance testing.</p><p></p><p>Black Hereford association motto: "Color you can count on."</p><p>Seems disingenuous to claim they used the best of the best of polled hereford and angus genetics, when they can't name a single angus or hereford sire used in the founding of "the breed."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Son of Butch, post: 1754563, member: 14585"] Hays Converter is a black white faced breed, started in 1957 and recognized as a breed since 1975. I am very impressed with the reasoning and selection of the foundation animals and subsequent generations to develop a breed for the harsh conditions of Western Canada. They perform quite well in that environment. But flopped when used outside of Western Canada. Hayes Converter met the inspection criteria to become a recognized breed. Black Hereford is not a recognized breed. Black Hereford corporation founded in 1994 by polled Hereford breeder John Gage. Goal: To eliminate red baldie calves and produce strictly polled black baldies by using black angus bulls for heterosis. 1997 first animal registered to the corporation: BHJ Balder 7504 (bull) angus and hereford parentage: unknown [B]1998[/B] Gage's Black Hereford herd and corporation records sold to J&N Ranch Leavenworth, Kansas. J&N used Gage's black hereford bulls in their commercial herd for a few years before selling the commercial herd to focus on promoting, registry and marketing their Black Herefords around 2003. J&N doing business as the American Black Hereford Association, has over 300 members and register an estimated 1500+ hd per year. To qualify for registration an animal needs to be a minimum of 62.5% Black hereford or hereford and black in color. So they can be 37.5% of anything and still be a registered black hereford. 87.5% to be purebred Black Hereford. I couldn't find any performance data for comparison with Charolais or SimAngus cattle. I bet Black Hereford would knock the socks off of Hays Converters when used in Kansas. But I'd put my money on both Charolais and SimAngus to beat both Black Herefords and Hays Converters in performance testing. Black Hereford association motto: "Color you can count on." Seems disingenuous to claim they used the best of the best of polled hereford and angus genetics, when they can't name a single angus or hereford sire used in the founding of "the breed." [/QUOTE]
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