Neighbor's mature cattle dying - pneumonia type

[JW IN VA]

Was talking to a distant neighbor who said he had lost two cows and a bull with some type of breathing problems Seem to have a lot of muscus drainage and yey noses aren't dry like they are feverish. Guy next to him has had some problems but blood work hasn't shown anything,yet.

Any ideas?

 

[daneg]

Not much info to go on, wild guess fog fever.

 

[gcreekrch]

BRD, can be vaccinated for.

 

[kenny thomas]

Was talking to a distant neighbor who said he had lost two cows and a bull with some type of breathing problems Seem to have a lot of muscus drainage and yey noses aren't dry like they are feverish. Guy next to him has had some problems but blood work hasn't shown anything,yet.

Any of the cows from a sale recently. Seeing several sick cows in this area from the traders.

 

[JW IN VA]

No "new" cattle in either herd that I know of.
Some of the cattle were fine one day and almost gone the next.
Not close to me but I'm just trying to help them sort it out. I feel for them.

 

[ARS]

COVID - better make sure the rest of the herd wears their masks!

kidding - sounds like BRD as others have suggested. Does the neighbor vaccinate for it? I'd call the vet - that bill would cost less than losing another cow.

 

[JW IN VA]

Vet saw his neighbor's cow and gave shot for Pneumonia. Not sure what else. He's been treating with LA 200. Might need something stronger.

 

[MurraysMutts]

I would think the only conclusive answer lies in an autopsy. May well be less expensive than losing any more animals.

 

[JW IN VA]

I would think the only conclusive answer lies in an autopsy. May well be less expensive than losing any more animals.

That's my thinking. That, or more blood work on the ones still alive. Losing another will be expensive.

 

[TCRanch]

Vet saw his neighbor's cow and gave shot for Pneumonia. Not sure what else. He's been treating with LA 200. Might need something stronger.

What did the vet give? LA won't do squat for pneumonia; need something specifically for respiratory. Assuming pneumonia/BRD is what's truly going on.

 

[JW IN VA]

Don't know. Will have to find out.

 

[farmerjan]

Acute bovine pulmonary emphysema and edema.... lost 12 cows to it several years ago according to what the vets could guess..... sudden and fast....

 

[farmerjan]

Vet treated several with Heavy Draxxin shots, and then excede in ear?, and put the group on monensin... to kill the bacterial that causes something to change in their gut or something.... I forget what all, but just know that it was awful....Happened right after we switched sections in rotational grazing.... Never was declared "official cause of death"

 

[daneg]

Fog fever refers to cattle refeeding syndrome which is clinically named acute bovine pulmonary emphysema and edema(ABPEE) and bovine atypical interstitial pneumonia.[1][2] This veterinary disease in adult cattle follows an abrupt move from feedlot (dried feed indoors) to 'foggage pasture' (fast growing, lush pasture, with high protein levels). Clinical signs begin within 1 to 14 days and death may follow within 2 to 4 days. The condition can affect up to 50% of the herd, and around 30% of affected cattle may die as a result. This metabolic nutritional-respiratory disturbance has also been reported in other ruminants (red deer)[3] and on a wide variety of grasses, alfalfa, rape, kale, and turnip tops.

 

[JKCattle]

Respiratory Syncitial Virus (BRSV) causes exact clinical signs and lung lesions as ABPE and can kill an adult cow in a matter of minutes once they show signs. Probably be best to have a vet do necropsy, to determine difference.

 

[JW IN VA]

Thank you to all who responded. These people really appreciate the help.
I haven't heard anything new today.