Need some advice on feed recipe

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BryanM

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I had the coop mix me a new recipe for growing calves tell me what ya think. I only had a 1000lbs mixed.
710lbs cr corn
140lbs oats
130lbs 38% protein pellet
20lb liq mollases Feeding to 500 to 700lb calves plus pasture
 
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I feed around 1.5 to 2% body weight. aprox 10lbs each split in 2. So 5lbs in mourning and 5 lbs at night
 

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Sounds like a good mix for finishing for beef . Too much fat/ carbs if you were raising heifers for replacements . Just my 2 cents and that’s about what it’s worth ! 😜🤠
 

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TB has always been my "go to" guy for nutrition. He knows his stuff!
Personally I'm too cheap. I feed my feedlot steers whole shell corn with a protein pellet adjusted to about 14% at weaning and lower it as they grow. I get WSC delivered bulk. Which sure isn't very CHEAP any more!!! Start them at weaning at 1% of BW - finish at 12/13 months of age, average 750# carcass. Got 3 set to be butchered on 10-12. They are eating about 18-20#/hd/day. We'll see how they go this year. All go at least a Choice grade in the past.
 
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Jeanne, I was hoping that TB would answer. I do have another question tho, how many catagories/reciepes do you use? For example; a weaning recipe mix, a grower recipe, a heifer retainment recipe and a finisher recipe? a cow maintainer recipe(when hay is scarce)
 

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Bryan, I have been doing this for a long time, but on a small scale. Husband was a nutritionist, so everything I do was taught by him.
You know the saying? KISS WSC is the cheapest way to feed corn. Yes, you will see the kernels in the manure - but, if you had the ability to screen the cracked corn manure - you will find just as much. There is an 8% better efficiency if you feed cracked corn. If you can buy your WSC for more than a 8% difference, you are money ahead. Around here, this is dairy country. If I try to buy "cracked" corn - it is pulverized. Feed a lot of powder. Would HAVE to add molasses or it would blow away if you fed outside.
I do not feed cows any grain - grass & hay.
I only feedout 3-5 steers each year for freezer trade - only my fall born males. I only feed them WSC and some protein pellets. The only adjustment I do is add more corn to the % fed so I am slowly lowering the protein. The steers have grass all summer, then about the last 60 days, they just have good dry 2nd cut grass hay - free choice.
I feed replacement heifers the exact same formula. I just limit them to 5#/hd/day throughout the winter until they are bred in the spring and they get turned out on pasture. They are now COWS - and don't get grain.
I show cattle - so they get grain throughout the whole show season (May - October). I mix WSC, oats, filler pellets & protein pellets. Individuals will get more oats added to their feed if they don't need to put on weight. I do NOT get my breeding/show animals fat. Fat will ruin a female. Every cell in her udder that gets fat in it prior to being bred will NEVER produce milk.
I do not feed lots of grain to the show cattle. Weaned calves generally get about 6# of the mixture a day. I have a cow that is a super easy keeper. She gets a full scoop of oats and 3/4 scoop of mix (a scoop of corn is about 3#), and all the hay she wants.
Under my KISS formula, this 3 yr old cow has won 6 Supremes this year making her the winningest beef animal in the state. Her nursing heifer calf has won 2 Grand Champions. We couldn't get the heifer to eat ANY grain until about 4 weeks ago. She gets 50% oats & 50% ration but can only eat 1/2 scoop/feeding. Heifer calf weighs 875# - long past due to wean but we have 1 more big show to go to this weekend. Will be flushing the cow after she calves.

You can make it as complicated as you want - or not.
 

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Thanks Jeanne, great looking cattle! Yes my biggest problem, I usually over think things. Thanks for the kiss reminder
 
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