My 3 bull calves, and some replacement heifer candidates

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I'm still working on finding the right balance of milking well enough for a good calf but not being skin and bones by doing it.. if the cows are fat in the fall then they aren't milking well enough
 

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I don't care how fat the cows are in the fall..... I want them to be in good body condition in June and July so they are feeding the calf, and coming in to heat. If they are fat in the fall, then the calf had better be fat too.... if they are not milking enough then the calf will not have the growth and I agree then they are not milking enough. Since some of my black ones have some dairy in them, they milk all the fat off their back and can get too thin.... One good thing if they breed back before they get to milking too much too long.... they will hold the fetus most times, just get thinner, and then as soon as I pull the calf, they will usually start to gain but it takes awhile to get to where I want them to be. I agree that if they are fat and the calf is just average, then they are not milking enough....but I prefer them a little on the fat side.... maybe because I see how it pulls the dairy x ones down . But that is just me.... and I do get what you are saying @Nesikep .
 
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I don't care how fat the cows are in the fall..... I want them to be in good body condition in June and July so they are feeding the calf, and coming in to heat. If they are fat in the fall, then the calf had better be fat too.... if they are not milking enough then the calf will not have the growth and I agree then they are not milking enough. Since some of my black ones have some dairy in them, they milk all the fat off their back and can get too thin.... One good thing if they breed back before they get to milking too much too long.... they will hold the fetus most times, just get thinner, and then as soon as I pull the calf, they will usually start to gain but it takes awhile to get to where I want them to be. I agree that if they are fat and the calf is just average, then they are not milking enough....but I prefer them a little on the fat side.... maybe because I see how it pulls the dairy x ones down . But that is just me.... and I do get what you are saying @Nesikep .
I've often found I'm better off exposing the really heavy milkers to the bull early after calving, before they've milked for 3 months and are run down. Prada, the prospect bull's momma is one of those cows, she was *late* (august calf) after her first calf, I shook my finger at her and said she better breed back and catch up.. she caught up 2 months every year, had the first calf 3 times and twins once.. She must have listened to me good!, she'll have the first calf next year too, she was in heat and I haltered her and led her to the bull before the usual bull release date
 

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